I do love me some Vivaldi....
@mike it's proprietary software, so no, thanks. They're spying you anyway. And it's based in chromium, so it isn't an option
@mike It's nice in case they actually turn it off but I will stick to open source browsers. On Librewolf I am not effected by FloC at all same for Firefox and Brave so I don't see a reason to choose the closed source option 🤷♀️
I feel like FLoC could be a good thing - if it was open to everyone and not just google's monopoly.
@52fighters @mike The dilema is that because of the huge sums Google pumps into Blink it's the better engine by now and Mozilla hasn't made specially good headlines over the past few years ether. I am still on FF (Librewolf to be exact) but I personally lost all hope in Mozilla the day they dropped all devs of Servo just to pay there managment even more.
@52fighters @mike Gecko lacks behind in JS by a LOT, they just dropped a web standart (PWAs) and even in terms of security aka sandboxing it lacks behind Blink. Don't get me wrong I still use Firefox but I can blaim noone for switching to Brave specially since Mozilla is no longer a Foundation I can stand behind whatsoever.
@cooper @bean @mike @52fighters I haven't done any actual testing and benchmarks don't matter much specilly in that case. On paper Epiphany is faster then Firefox but while using it I found FF to be a lot better. Still they can tell us about the weaknesses and Gecko just doesn't score well with JS no matter if it's about speed or implementation of certain things. In short Gecko lacks behind quite a bit in a few areas and isn't specially far ahead in anything.
@mike I thought FLoC is only supposed to be for Chrome... which is as much as 80% of the web according to some (though among my site's visitors its only 25% :-))
Honestly, privacy wasn't even close to my main concern when choosing Vivaldi as my main browser, but this does indeed reinforce my choice.
@mike I like Vivaldi, as I used Opera on PC years and years before they were bought out by a Chinese company (at least I think they were Chinese) with a questionable stance on privacy. That said, Mozilla's antics of late piss me off so bad I have a hard time trying to justify Firefox' use. They are pretty much wholly dependent on Google for financing.
FLoC will make its way into browsers one way or another, it's the nature of the beast.
@mike What I understood is that FLoC will be some kind of Cohort based classification. End result: anyone not accepting FLoC will be in the Cohort 'no FLoC'.
Thou Shall Be FLoCed.
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