Gnome 40 release video. I'm really looking forward to giving it a shot. Sorry about the YouTube link.

@mike I just tried it and well... after 2 days and more than 3 hours of configuring it (was looking very good) I switched back to my i3wm, nothing better than i3wm... I can change workspaces faster, programs runs faster and everything... even full apps/games are easy to switch from workspaces while on gnome crashed and reopened the gnome session closing badly all the apps... 😢

@mike the only think I couldn't fix is the screen shot app, I am used to Flameshot and the shortkey wasn't working (I should make a custom one as I did with i3wm) but it anyways took like 5 or 7 seconds to start the gui to start the crop... so wasn't really very smooth and usable as they pretend to show on their videos, a lot of extensions to make it look as you want/need.

@blkpws Ahh, I've always just used the built in Print Screen screen shot thing, or scrot depending on my mood. I've had Fedora 34 Beta running for a little over an hour now, and so far it's been good.

@mike but I miss the arrows and customization when I want to tell a coworker/friends what I want to show them from my screen. Idk if you know about it already but it is really nice (I hope it doesn't lags on your Fedora and it was more a issue about my distro). The shortcut you must launch is `flameshot gui` and you get the option to select the area you want an dplace arrows, text, squares and etc. There is also a option to upload the image on imgur and get just the url.

@blkpws I've used it before, but I thought I'd give it a go to see how things are going to work in Gnome 40. It was more than a little glitchy. It didn't lag out significantly on me, but it did take a couple seconds to load. Not a super speedy experience. I'm guessing there's some kind of incompatibility with the new environment. Probably get fixed up in no time.

@mike Yup, open source always gets better, never worse. I enjoyed of gnome but I am too used to i3wm and this tiling system. I still think gnome did bad using javascript on their DE but well.. they should know why they did it.

@mike I'm always impressed with the looks of GNOME, but when I try it, I'm not equally impressed.

I'm all for the 'single monitor hyper focus one thing at the time' philosophy, but GNOME takes that way to far by making it annoying to even run more than one thing at the time. :/

@hund @mike I think GNOME 40 is particularly well suited for laptops. Using the touch pad / touch screen gestures is quite nice.

@robby @mike That's what most users keeps telling me, while all developers of GNOME say it's made for advanced keyboard users. I'm rather confused. :P

@hund @robby @mike I think that's because they added a shortcut or two for workspaces?

@hund @robby @mike but even if you are using a laptop... keyboard typing will be always faster than a touchpad gesture xD that's why i3wm tries to help users to do anything via keyboard, you only need mouse for browsing web or few more stuff. And i3wm will use less resource and have more battery to keep using while traveling than a full gnome desktop. I will never understand why people uses gnome or others DE if isn't because they don't know about WM world.

@hund @robby @mike My experience is, that it is both: wherever your hand currently are, you can interact with Gnome. I mostly use the keyboard, but sometimes my hands are already on the touchpad and so it is faster usign the gestures.

@hund yeah, I believe that what they mean is "advanced user" = someone not afraid to use keyboard. I believe that G40 is a good first step, I like it. Is it a tiling window manager replacement? Definitely NOT. But is it usable? Sure... @robby @mike

@mike Although I haven't used Gnome since the 2.2 days, I'm still really happy to see it moving forward. The Gnome redesign wasn't really for me, but I appreciate how they re-imagined the desktop UX. That's the spirit of FOSS to me.

This is too good to be true, it has to be wrong because WHO CODES ON WHITE BACKGROUNDS.

Seriously, it looks great

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