@mike I'm less impressed by the feature list of iOS 14 (I'm happy for just small, incremental security fixes); I'm *more* impressed by the fact that devices as old as the iPhone 6S will get it. That's amazing, and just continues to keep me in the ecosystem.
@mdm The sad thing is, that's not particularly impressive. The mobile market just sucks in that regard. The iPhone 6S is only five years old, and while in mobile years that's ancient, I have a modern OS (full feature not feature limited like mobile OSs installed on old hardware) on my eight year old laptop. I mean, five years is pretty great for a mobile device, but I'm hugely unimpressed by the mobile update cycle in general.
@mike Yep. All depends on the company -- Microsoft takes it upon itself to release security updates for Windows; Apple does the same for iPhones. (I've heard this is partially why an iPhone and copy of windows "costs more."
For the Android world the responsibility of updates falls upon: "who knows?"
The cell carrier?
Has anybody ever actually figured it out?
(Not who it's _supposed_ to be, but who actually is pushing out updates on time.)
@mdm Heh, my computer runs Linux, which was free, so that whole "This is why it costs more" doesn't really work for me. That's really the reason why mobiles don't get updated. Too many individuals trying to dip into the till. The OEMs want you to buy new phones, so it's in their best interest to not update. Google doesn't care as long as you're using their stuff so they can spy, but they have to bow to OEMs and networks. Well, in theory they really don't, but back to the "not caring" part.
@mike MacOS is not bad. You can download for free and install it with native performance virtualization on any PC with AMD PCIe graphics. The move to ARM would break this. Apple Watch remains a fashion item with bloated features that aren't very useful (LMAO at hand washing detection). iOS is fairly meh, just like Android. To me, phones became a distraction to be minimized. Ultimately, I can never use any of these things as they cannot achieve the customization level I am now used to.
@teatime I wasn't aware you could just download a full image of macOS for free. I've never seen that option. Where do you go to do that?
They're definitely torpedoing compatibility with the PC, but that's fairly typical of Apple. I doubt they're going to shed any tears about keeping people from installing on non-Apple hardware.
@mike Well not truly "free".. you will be violating Apples toc, but so far they don't actively stop you. The ISOs can be downloaded freely from Apple if you have access to a Mac or from alternative sources. Have not tried myself but there are a number of tutorials:
I like some aspects of the MacOS UI and sometimes it gives inspiration about how to customize my Linux.
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