@kelbot @mike I completely agree. I don’t have a problem with it at all, I just don’t see where all the hype for this fantastic new service is coming from, as it’s just a collection of forked apps. The lack of attribution on their website isn’t very good either. :(

Note: attribution might be there, but I couldn’t find it. With purism being such good open source citizens, I would have expected that to be front and centre.

@kev I think the hype is mostly just coming from the places we're hanging out. Also, I'm pretty stoked that they've put Mastodon so front and center in their offerings. Can only add to the user base, which is good for us as members of the Federation.

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@mike @kev @kelbot I am here because of Librem.one. I suppose I am the ideal use case; I am not going out and finding these services on my own and I want to support the company because I am dying to get their phone. For me, the bundle of services has value because I don't have to set anything up. VPN for example, a couple clicks and I am up running. Purism did post about all the upstream clients but I would like to have seen that linked from the main page.

https://puri.sm/posts/how-purism-works-upstream-and-gives-back/

@jonathan_knez And I think that's a solid strategy for Purism. These services already exist in the wild (minus the changes from their forking), so development requirements for them are minimal, yet they can offer a collection of services that are valuable to the people using them that live up to the core values of the company. I'm not super crazy about some of the ways they implemented it, but all in all I'm not going to shrill rant on a podcast about it either.

@kev @kelbot

@mike
Yeah, I don't think they launched it in the best way. The while disabling reporting thing was really dumb. I guess at least they changed their minds after feedback. Chris really sounded like a bitter kickstarter backer that just wanted to jab at the company.
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@kelbot I wouldn't go so far as to say "dumb", but definitely short sighted. Disabling that feature makes sense in a monolithic environment. If librem.one was a stand alone service that didn't interact with anybody else, there is no local or federated timeline, individuals blocking individuals would be sufficient. Unfortunately, they didn't think about the rest of the federation when they did it. I imagine that decision hit them like a kick in the face.

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@mike
But they ARE part of the fediverse and advertise that very fact. Launching this service and not understanding how it works looks pretty dumb to me.
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@kelbot Fair enough.

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@kev @kelbot @mike I found the source and there's a statement from someone working at purism that says a blog post is coming up regarding this kerfuffle.

I'll be including all of that in *my* upcoming blog post :P

@brandon @kev @kelbot @mike

Screenshot from the android app. Fediverse is there, but empty.

@erikstl @kev @kelbot @mike Hmm, so they're not federating

@brandon @mike @kelbot @kev @erikstl given that their advertising copy makes mention of the fact that there are already "millions" of users, i highly doubt they are defederating themselves.

@greg @brandon They're obviously federating to at least some extent because we can all see and follow and comment on accounts on their instance, and vice versa. Even if they've disabled the Federated timeline (a move I'm not entirely against having looked into the Fed on occasion), that doesn't mean they're not federating.

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