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Love that a site as influential as GitHub has decided to remove Google Analytics and they made such a strong public announcement about it! Makes it more acceptable for others to do the same! 👏

@markosaric
They're owned by Microsoft. They're just taking the tracking data back home.

@jens @markosaric I also appreciate the move but I agree with Jens, they're not saying they're ending tracking. And in the end, isn't it what we all want here? Having the right to enjoy the web without being tracked in all our behaviours?

@imacrea @jens i think they have the right to choose what they want to do on their site. that they use that right to say we will no longer send data of (tens?) of millions of people to Google every day is amazing to me.

using some kind of trackers to analyse what's happening on their own site and get insights to improve their product is not bad

our right is that we can decide whether or not that's fine for us and decide whether or not we want to visit a company/site that does that

@markosaric @jens But can we? Is there a way to decide to use github without being tracked?

@imacrea @markosaric @jens of course not, but by using github you choose to trust them. You do not choose to trust Google as well.

If you do not trust Github, then use Gitlab, Gitea, or, why not, just use `git`!

@arjen @markosaric @jens I agree, what it says is that only one actor is tracking you. But in the end, does it sound so complicated to you to have the right not to be tracked that your sole point is to say "well if you're not happy go somewhere else". You know it's not that easy as Github is a closed space. If people are there it's not because of trust but because of network effect, come on.

@imacrea @markosaric @jens

Two points:

1. If you want the benefit of that network effect, they need something in exchange to keep the network running, not?

2.
On the Web you can never avoid site X keeping a registry of your visiting them.

What I hate is when I choose to depend on site X (my choice) then they share my info with site Y (not my choice).

Finally:

If you use git as it's been designed, decentralised, it does not need any central site X in the first place.

@arjen
Well, that's a little off to me. I understand giving them something in return for the network effect.

Money would be an option, though when it comes to FLOSS (from which they benefit), it's a bit cynical to ask for that. Or anything, really.

But with tracking data, they're not asking what they're taking. They're just taking, and you don't exactly know what it is.

@imacrea @markosaric

@arjen @imacrea @markosaric
I mean, yes, keeping it in-house does mean sharing it with fewer parties, which is good in the first instance, but it's also a power move.

@arjen @imacrea @markosaric
And, well, cheering it is a bit like celebrating that one lord stole the land that you rent from another lord. You're still paying.

@jens @imacrea @markosaric it's fine, we won't completely agree. You do want the network effect but you think you can demand it for free. Fine with me 😉

@arjen
I think that companies that benefit from the network effect should pay to maintain it, instead of trying to offload that onto the very people who make it happen in the first place.

There's a difference between that and wanting it for free 😉
@imacrea @markosaric

@markosaric Keep a watch for a checkout of Plausible by Github. 😁

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