@roytang i don't know any convenient alternative for the average user. many like nextcloud but it's probably not something the average person wants to install and deal with, other alternative is microsoft office but that has its own problems. libreoffice is great but it's offline. any others?

@markosaric @roytang
For the "average" user who doesn't have complex needs I can thoroughly recommend CryptPad. I use it myself, and have suggested it to others. All good reports, so far.

https://cryptpad.fr/

@markosaric @roytang You don't have to selfhost Nextcloud. Just choose a provider you trust. https://nextcloud.com/providers/

@fede thanks for sharing! i'll have to explore EtherCalc / Etherpad

@markosaric

OnlyOffice is also a good alternative if you're looking for online document edition

@fede thanks!

@markosaric @fede CodiMD is also a great Online Collaboration Tool.

@fede
How are you liking disroot?
@markosaric

@jesse_m

It's community driven project focused on users' privacy and free/libre and open source software.
I've been using Disroot on daily basis since more than three years.

@markosaric

@chris tripadvisor is not bad for places/restaurants. it is almost as good as google maps. foursquare is good for north america and some big cities mostly. i don't think a non-surveillance capitalism alternative exists yet but do hope that openstreetmap could become it in the future

@markosaric Ooh. Hadn't thought of Tripadvisor and, frankly, forgot about 4square. I'll have to take a look. Thanks

@chris you're welcome!

@markosaric @chris

Wikitravel was biggish in early 2000s but I guess it didn't properly break through.

@jamesmullarkey @chris true, i liked reading their city guides but in most cases they are now outdated

@jamesmullarkey @chris @markosaric didn't most of the wikitravel community move over to wikivoyage when they weren't happy with the wikitravel host / owner?

For many places I've found the latter to be quite useful.

@markosaric @Tutanota

Darn forgot @peertube obviously!

@jamesmullarkey @markosaric @Tutanota Have you tried goaccess (https://goaccess.io/) for basic analytics? It's been great for me. Last real item I'm stuck on then is Google Fi

@chris @markosaric @Tutanota thanks for this never seen it before :)

@jamesmullarkey @markosaric @Tutanota I've been using it about 2 months. It isn't the most detailed but what it does have is super accurate as it isn't using JS

@jamesmullarkey @Tutanota nice list!

@spelk
How are you liking posteo?
@markosaric

@jesse_m @markosaric Big fan of the service, 1 euro a month and they provide a very privacy orientated ethical place to be.

Have been with them a couple of years now and have persuaded most of my immediate family to adopt them over the evil big G.

@markosaric Good on them!

@danielanken thanks for sharing!

@michaelgraaf try Firefox if you need a better browser :)

@markosaric Not possible on a Chromebook 😩

@MaximilienMoreau seems good to me