I'm considering muting the words Signal and Telegram. It just makes me sad to see all the people go from one centralized non-free place to another centralized non-free place, while they're thinking it's a good thing.

Trying to explain and educate them about ethical options, feels as fruitless as emptying the ocean with a spoon.

@hund Well, you could write awesome tutorials on how to super easy switch to your preferred solution that would be as easy to switch from WhatsApp to Signal. I have already moved my family message group to Signal because a) I knew exactly how to do it (no research for me) and b) I knew I would have a shot to convince my family. However, I might switch other groups to e.g. XMPP in the future if I knew how to do it. I am lazy and I guess other people are as well

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@hund knows its not possible to choose XMPP where the group is not homogeneous. But there are many people tooting about moving their family groups that can most of the time be migrated to anything. Parents and grand parents does not care, they just want to click an icon and write to family member. Choosing any of the free xmpp servers out there list.jabber.at, registering and installing app from play/apple store is almost as simple as choosing signal

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