“Systemd is a nice operating system, too bad it lacks a decent init system.”


@hund honest question from someone who only picked up Linux again four months ago after using it up until circa 2005, why is everyone making such a big deal about systemd?

I can't detect any sort of issues related to systemd on my distro, and it feels kind of simple to use really.

@kungtotte The quote sums it up pretty good. It's basically its own OS, which goes against the whole idea of Linux distributions being modular where you are in control. And something that triggers me really bad is binary logs.. What where they thinking?


@hund yeah, binary logs is dumb any way you cut it. I can't think of a single redeeming fact for that "feature".

It seems like it's not that difficult to switch away from systemd though? Considering that there's several systemd-less versions of most distros.

I looked briefly at Void Linux and their runit system seems really neat.

@kungtotte There's options, but almost all major ones has adopted Systemd, which sucks. :(

@hund yeah, for some things standardisation is great but not when it's around a bad idea!

So far I haven't been bit by systemd in any way, so I'll stick to my current distro. But I saved some space on my drive so I can try out other distros :) I'm somewhat spoiled with the package availability in Arch/AUR though...

@hund @kungtotte mostly its simplicity as far as I know. The distro maintainers I know are all happy af about it as it cuts down on work for them (according to them. I am not technically adept enough to have an opinion).

Personally I have no problem with systemd, I can take it or leave it

@hund yeah, it does seem like you're giving up a lot if you want to avoid systemd. The only major distros that ship without it are Gentoo and Slackware, unless you want to get into derivatives like Devuan and ArchBang.

Other than that it's all smaller distros or forks that aren't as well supported/maintained as their parent distros.

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