@kelbot @mike I completely agree. I don’t have a problem with it at all, I just don’t see where all the hype for this fantastic new service is coming from, as it’s just a collection of forked apps. The lack of attribution on their website isn’t very good either. :(

Note: attribution might be there, but I couldn’t find it. With purism being such good open source citizens, I would have expected that to be front and centre.

@kev I think the hype is mostly just coming from the places we're hanging out. Also, I'm pretty stoked that they've put Mastodon so front and center in their offerings. Can only add to the user base, which is good for us as members of the Federation.


@mike @kev @kelbot I am here because of I suppose I am the ideal use case; I am not going out and finding these services on my own and I want to support the company because I am dying to get their phone. For me, the bundle of services has value because I don't have to set anything up. VPN for example, a couple clicks and I am up running. Purism did post about all the upstream clients but I would like to have seen that linked from the main page.

@jonathan_knez And I think that's a solid strategy for Purism. These services already exist in the wild (minus the changes from their forking), so development requirements for them are minimal, yet they can offer a collection of services that are valuable to the people using them that live up to the core values of the company. I'm not super crazy about some of the ways they implemented it, but all in all I'm not going to shrill rant on a podcast about it either.

@kev @kelbot

@kev @kelbot @mike I found the source and there's a statement from someone working at purism that says a blog post is coming up regarding this kerfuffle.

I'll be including all of that in *my* upcoming blog post :P

@brandon @mike @kelbot @kev @erikstl given that their advertising copy makes mention of the fact that there are already "millions" of users, i highly doubt they are defederating themselves.

@greg @brandon They're obviously federating to at least some extent because we can all see and follow and comment on accounts on their instance, and vice versa. Even if they've disabled the Federated timeline (a move I'm not entirely against having looked into the Fed on occasion), that doesn't mean they're not federating.

@erikstl @kelbot @kev

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