I just read @kev 's article on why he is ditching Android, https://kevq.uk/why-im-ditching-android/ . He replaced his Huawei P10 (yes, I read many comment) with iPhone SE which makes perfect sense. I wish I had budget for replacing my phone. I will stick to Lineage OS on my MI Note 4 for now.
Funny thing about the article is the comment section. I guess people closed their eyes while reading the article.
@Matter the solution is whatever is decide it is, since I’m the user. I have absolutely no inclination to mess around trying to bypass Google’s controls.
People say “iPhone is so locked down” where does that come from and have those people actually used iOS? There isn’t a single app I’ve been unable to use and I don’t use any Apple services, so the “walled garden” is complete rubbish.
I seriously can’t see myself ever going back to Android.
>so the“walled garden”is complete rubbish
I'm not sure what to respond to that. iOS is proprietary software (!) and does not allow you to sideload applications that have not been blessed by the corporate mothership (!!!).How is that not a walled garden? How does that give you ownership of your computer and computing? The whole point of FOSS?
@Matter why is side loading applications required if the system they have in place offers all the apps you need? Why make things more difficult?
I’m glad you enjoy being a sys aim to your phone, but that’s not for me. I want to pick it up, make calls, send messages, check my emails and put it down. I don’t need to side load anything to accomplish that, so I won’t bother.
This conversation should be mandatory reading for all 12-15year olds.
Kids at school keep hatin iPhones or Android, depending on what they have. What we need to realize is that everyone has different needs.
I enjoy tinkering with my phone. So I got an android and Lin'd it. I got many iPhone friends who love the simplicity.
Use what you feel comfy with, sure, be open to suggestions, but IT'S YOUR DAMN PHONE.
I'm pleased to say I've now reached the age where I'm less neurotic about it and just use what works for me. Very pleased with the used iPhone 7 I bought recently.
@captainflarg @m4iler @kev @Matter
As we age, we start losing interest in things which don't matter.
I used to say "I wish I have done ... instead of ..." or "If I knew what I know now I would act differently". Then it clicked, "If I actually listen to elders' advices, I could know".
I am an old soul and 22. I like puzzle games and listening to modern classics. I had a messy Ubuntu setup but now I have Solus with only what I need. My Eng. Lang. teacher runs Void.
Life is more with just enough
@njha @kev @Matter @murtezayesil People believe stuff they own tells something about them. It does, that much is a proven psychological fact, but shaking this habit is one of the most liberating things you can do.
I am trying. Still have some knee-jerk reactions, but unless someone calls out my thinkpad X200 for being an old piece of shit, I don't give a fuck about what you use.
Regarding "iPhones are locked down", I have to say that they are. I've used both an iPhone 5S and 7 at various points over the years and I absolutely hated both of them because of the ecosystem. One of the most annoying things is that you have to pay for the majority of the apps that are of any use whereas, on Android, those apps are free (with ads). To solve that caveat, all one has to do is install a root-level ad blocker like AdAway which, in my experience, is impossible on iOS. If you have the money to pay for those apps and don't mind that as well as all the proprietary applications (including the OS itself), that's fine.
But saying that Apple isn't a walled garden is, in my opinion, wrong; you can't get root, you can't sideload applications, you can't put another operating system on it, you can't change the boot animation, you can't even change the way the launcher looks. You also can't lock it down and prevent it from communicating with Apple, you can't use it without an Apple ID, you can't prevent other apps from accessing the internet and transmitting whatever data they may collect (however little it may be, some is more than none), the list goes on.
@kev @Matter @murtezayesil All these people hating you. I made that exact decision years ago. Sorry, but Google’s UX is a pile of hot, steaming garbage. And Android without Google is essentially useless. The time you could have spent on actually productive things are instead wasting on flashing a million roms and thinking you’re smarter than Google for avoiding their system-deep integration. Good for you.
iPhones rock. Come flame me.
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