If you have something to say that’s so long it needs 8 toots to say it, maybe you should just write a blog post? 😉
@kev who was this for exactly ?
@pranav no one specifically. I see lots of multi-toot posts, so it was aimed at a lot of people.
• 8-toots-ful of content won't make for a long enough blog post
• I haven't seen a free-as-in-beer AP-powered non-micro-blogging platform (suggestions welcome!), I assume most haven't either
@bugaevc surely a blog post can be as long or as short as you want it to be?
I run an instance as well but haven't had time to write anything yet.
There was a lot of drama with write.as a little while ago because they *said* it was open source but really wasn't, then they open sourced some components and not others, they violated the license they were supposedly using, a lot of stuff. As far as I can see, it's all sorted now but I tend to shy away from projects like that.
There's a popular term for projects that say they're FLOSS and aren't but I can't remember what it is right now; it's a play on companies that also say they're "green" and energy-efficient but, again, aren't.
@sean I haven’t honestly given that much thought to it. It was just a flippant remark. I don’t actually care if someone multi-toots (did I just coin a new phrase?) I was just being silly.
@sean the default is 500 chars.
@sean we stick to 500 on Fosstodon. Personally, I don’t recall ever struggling with that limit and needing to multi-toot.
@kev does your instance support the "collapse long toots" thing? 🤔
@kev but what about long replies? writing a blog post to respond to a toot is less convenient than simply threading your replies. the thread is both more digestible and also immediately present.
...hmm, i think this would be more interesting if mastodon actually supported authoring Article objects that didn't have character limits...
@trwnh If an instance admin has cli access, they can modify some files and increase the toot limits.I've set mine to 2000 but I find that I *rarely* go over 1500.
@amolith they still get federated out as a Note, which is a misrepresentation imo. although the difference between a Note and an Article is a bit hazy, i guess? some people say formatting, sone people say length, some people say the presence of a title.
i think in masto's case we could say length. but changing the character length for all toots is not what i'm thinking. i meant more like a toggleable per-post option that marks it as an Article and disables character limit.
@trwnh if it were me, I’d construct my response so it didn’t need multiple toots.
@kev that doesn't really work when you have a lot to address
@trwnh which brings me back to my original point - if you have a lot to address, a micro blogging platform probably isn’t the right place to do that.
@kev well, that brings me back to my point as well -- that threaded replies are more convenient than switching environments entirely, then pasting a link to a blog post in reply to someone. Thus, it would be convenient to have native support for posting slightly-longer-form content. The jump from 500 characters to 4000 characters is not unrealistic, especially for extended substantive discussions.
@trwnh good talk. 👍
@kev That's when you increase the character limits on your instance to something higher than 500 😉 I find that 1500 is about perfect. I have gotten close to the 2000 limit I set for my instance before but 99% of my toots are under 1500. It's the perfect length for longer conversations in DMs or toots with a few URLs.
@amolith I’ve never really had an issue with 500 characters personally.
@kev I actually kinda like posting things as multiple toots, and splitting them up by paragraph. Bad inherited habit from Twitter and SMS, I guess.
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