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@pixelfed What is the main difference between this and fediverse.party?

@jason123santa @pixelfed fediverse.party has a lot more data, and is generally more useful. This is meant to compliment resources like fediverse.party with features like the People Directory

@dansup @pixelfed @jason123santa

fediverse.party has a lot more data

In this regard, isn't there a way to just take the data from there? In other words, aren't there public databases of fediverse apps and clients that can just be shared between such sites? Like database version of the fediverse-related delightful lists.
cc @humanetech

@liwott @pixelfed @humanetech @jason123santa Yes there is more data on other sites, I also run fedidb.org that lists all known projects.

It's intentional, I wanted to curate the projects so we're not suggesting ones that are not production ready.

I added links to fediverse.party and other sites in the footer too

@liwott @pixelfed @jason123santa

In addition to what @dansup mentioned, the intention of #delightul lists at codeberg.org/fediverse is to list #FOSS #fediverse projects from their earliest inception, to well after they are 'dead'. The idea being that the code is always delightful and may inspire other devs in their own projects, or to start new ones.

@pixelfed @humanetech @dansup
Thank you both for the clarifications ! (and sorry @lightone for only mentioning @humanetech, this was due to not finding your fedi account on codeberg)

I understand why it is not exactly the same sites that appear on those lists. (Maybe it is not that approriate that fediverse.info mentions "We're working on a full table with every project" though.)

There is still the fact that the mantainers of each such list has to separately fetch information on each software, instead of sharing a common (collaborative) DB. This would not prevent one to only show a subset of the information on a given site.

@jason123santa @pixelfed

IMHO I believe it would be so much better and actually useful if all features of websites like fediverse.info and fediverse.party were joined together in one unique website. Since AFAIK all of those websites are open source, anyone could contribute and add to the most celebrated website the feature they would be building a whole new website for, without needing to actually create it from scratch. This would also avoid having different endpoints to update with the features, the development status, etc. of #ActivityPub #platforms.

@dansup don’t you think that #Fediverse related website are becoming too many and confusing instead of useful for newcomers?

#fedi22 #meta

@tommi @jason123santa @pixelfed While I understand where you are coming from, it's sort of ironic that you want a centralized resource for a decentralized network.

The fact that there is so many different fediverse websites is important and a good thing, can you imagine if there was only one?

@tommi Most things here are run by volunteers. It does make sense to centralize some general information about it all. But, unlike Wikipedia, we can't realistically guarantee that any site will always be stable for years to come. We don't have the resources needed to provide such guarantees. For example, fediverse.space was lucky to be revived by a new maintainer, but fediverse.network went down forever. By duplicating information the community makes sure everything won't disappear at once.

@lightone I understand, but my argument is to unite in one common great forkable dataset all of the info and the codebase, then of course the website could be moved, change ownership and maintainer.

My point is: if I pose myself the question “I need all of the most up to date and comprehensive data and information, where do I go?”

I do not have a unique answer… I should have, though.

Maybe @humanetech has the answer.

@tommi @lightone

A solution to this can be to have fediverse apps aimed at knowledge aggregation. You'd have publishers of information, aggregators that are federated, and subscribers that consume the info for whatever purpose. It'll be an open ecosystem where anyone can be publisher or subscriber, and anyone can spin up aggregators. The information published could match pre-defined templates, and be rich linked data, allowing a lot of flexibility to federate and retrieve the interesting bits.

@tommi @lightone

There are numerous specialized use cases that match this general mechanism.

@humanetech @lightone @tommi

Back in the dogfooding business I see 😁

A single gitable data-table is probably all one needs in this particular context, although the idea of fedi-curated databases looks very interesting !
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