Modern XMPP is an independent project launched to improve the quality of user-to-user messaging applications that use XMPP.

No, is the XMPP Standards Foundation. The Modern XMPP project is a separate initiative.

Well, as separate as can be - I'm heavily involved in the XSF as well. But the XSF is focused on matters of protocols, and it grew increasingly clear to me that we needed a less official space for collaborating on non-protocol issues such as user interfaces.


@mattj @hund thanks. as an xmpp user, i just hope the two initiatives work together at some point for the better of the protocol and its applications.

They are parallel things working on different layers of XMPP. There is no competition, and significant community overlap. Absolutely nothing to worry about 🙂

@mattj thanks for understanding my worries and the positive approach : )

@hund @liaizon “We also intend to provide a comprehensive set of guidelines for UI and UX design. Developing a client was never just about the protocol. In fact in most cases the protocol is a secondary concern. Having a concrete set of guidelines will help to provide a more uniform user experience between different applications, ensuring they use the same terminology, and provide interoperable feature sets.”

Good shit

"Independent project" is to make clear it is not a project of the XMPP Standards Foundation.

The project was launched by me (I gave a talk about it at FOSDEM some years ago), but it is a community resource and contributed to by many.

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