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Modern XMPP is an independent project launched to improve the quality of user-to-user messaging applications that use XMPP.

docs.modernxmpp.org

@Ged
No, xmpp.org is the XMPP Standards Foundation. The Modern XMPP project is a separate initiative.

Well, as separate as can be - I'm heavily involved in the XSF as well. But the XSF is focused on matters of protocols, and it grew increasingly clear to me that we needed a less official space for collaborating on non-protocol issues such as user interfaces.

@hund

@mattj @hund thanks. as an xmpp user, i just hope the two initiatives work together at some point for the better of the protocol and its applications.

@Ged
They are parallel things working on different layers of XMPP. There is no competition, and significant community overlap. Absolutely nothing to worry about 🙂
@hund

@mattj thanks for understanding my worries and the positive approach : )

@hund @liaizon “We also intend to provide a comprehensive set of guidelines for UI and UX design. Developing a client was never just about the protocol. In fact in most cases the protocol is a secondary concern. Having a concrete set of guidelines will help to provide a more uniform user experience between different applications, ensuring they use the same terminology, and provide interoperable feature sets.”

Good shit

@hund
"Independent project" is to make clear it is not a project of the XMPP Standards Foundation.

The project was launched by me (I gave a talk about it at FOSDEM some years ago), but it is a community resource and contributed to by many.
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