Google and Microsoft have really ruined how people use email. Every other person use top posting. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
@hund Thanks, I dearly feel the same. Could bottom posting become the future, please? Or top posting be considered as spam? Fully agreeing with you!!!
@tengo That you lose less time looking for the context of what other people are responding to: You just read the relevant quote and the response is right below it.
Top posting means responding to an email on top of it, which is the opposite of how we read and understand things. With top posting, you read the response and then make out the context by having to read maybe a whole thread.
@tengo So, you don’t read top to bottom? And don’t you agree that it is faster to understand something when it is NOT out of order? Do you really know anyone who can understand things without their context?
Bottom posting even makes for shorter emails, because you only quote the relevant parts and leave out all the clutter. Are those such big assumptions to make? To me they’re obvious.
I do read from top to bottom.
I didn't mention anything about understanding things when they are out of order.
Just because something is obvious to you it doesn't mean it is to everyone.
The original post mentioned every other person using top posting. Doesn't that indicate one option is not obvious and what is considered common sense differs?
Microsoft didn't get basically 99.99% of the market share with their crappy operating system because it is a good operating system, they made it because they found a way to make it the default option on pretty much every OEM computer that's sold.
That's unfortunately how the world works.
The original post mentioned every other person using top posting.
No. It mentioned that certain companies that have a quasi-monopoly on email have adopted a way of doing things that harms usability and contradicts common sense, and have forced a lot of users to adopt it de facto because they (the users) don’t know any better.
Doesn’t that indicate one option is not obvious and what is considered common sense differs?
No. It just indicates that most people will adapt to whatever they’re given as default, even if it goes against common sense, user friendliness and/or accessibility. It’s simply a matter of ignorance. Top posting being a bad habit is an objective truth no matter how many people do it.
I doing think people should need to configure email formatting. Sure, if it's a requirement for specific group then make the change, but for general use that shouldn't be necessary.
@tengo Here's a classic example:
-Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
-Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
@hund I'm assume when you say "messes up" you're referring to when there's a mix of top and bottom posts?
Regarding top posting, I assumed that to be the standard now and bottom posting with quotes (or not) to be kept alive on mailing list.
@tengo By messes up, I mean that they diverge from the standard. I don't know why they do it.
We have always read from left to right and from top to bottom, with the exception of a few languages that read from right to left. In *every* other scenario from BBS, forums, SMS, any instant messaging client/service, any social media, you name it, and we use bottom posting. We use bottom posting here as we speak.
Top posting is plain stupid and there's *never* a single reason to do it.
@hund At work, I’m forced to use top posting. The reason being that, if someone new enters the conversation, they can have the whole thread to read.
Ironically, then we have things like: “My response to your email is embedded in yours below but in a different colour.”
@hund I have gotten replies, that I have forgotten to write anything, when my response was actually at the bottom, or even inline...
@rzg That happened me recently as well when talking to a company.. It was really frustrating keeping a good face.
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