@hund First of all, thank you for not including a youtube link.

When I used to watch google's youtube, I liked his enthusiasm and knowledge of thinkpads.

I own a number of thinkpads as I like them quite a bit!

@braunne @hund

Careful Thinkpads are habit forming, my all time favorite is the x220 (Ive had 4, 3 are now my kids for reliable home schooling and University use)

I recently purchased an e14 gen2 AMD model for myself and have working x200(librebooted), x40, t20, t21, t61(Middleton BIOS), t400, r61i, and nonworking but hopfullly fixable x24, 600, t60, t400 models

@hund I'm wondering if the new thinkpads are as good as the old (I don't have a plan B for my computers).

@jalvarez @hund

I recently purchased an e14 Gen2 AMD Thinkpad to coexist with my x220, even though it is a ‘entry level’ model at ~£900, I am very impressed with its build quality and power, infact I think it has a feature that makes it a more compelling purchase then the current T or x models


Its a great machine, the fact the left hand side connections (including power USB typeC) are on a separate board makes up for the integrated keyboard for future repairablity purposes

@jalvarez It depends on what you define as the older ones. It probably varies from user to user as well. :)

@hund X1 carbon (2nd gen.), T450s and T460; not that old. I'm pretty happy with those.

For instance, I'm not sure if X1 9th. Gen. is as robust as its predecessors.

@jalvarez I'm not too worried about the quality on newer ones, I'm more worried about repairability and new parts. :)


Due to the push for ultrathinness most of new thinkpads have more in common with single board computers, nearly everything is soldered. That was a big consideration with getting the e14 instead of the t or x models

The downside is that the e14 is not 'certified' for Linux by Lenovo (not really an issue though) https://wiki.x220.co.uk/lenovo_certified


@hund Well, for me, the robustness of something implies reparability (unless it is so robust that it never breaks :P)

Nowadays, the perfect combo (for some manufacturers) is design products to fail right after the warranty expires and make them impossible to repair.

If all manufacturers follow that trend in the future, it worries me.

@jalvarez It's absolutely a trend for a lot of companies, but we're also seeing a surprisingly large trend of the complete opposite as well. Consumers are only getting smarter and more educated. :)

@hund sebi's videos are the reason im using a t430 as my daily driver(both at work and home). Aside from the IPS screen mod, I've pretty much done everything this guide talks about: medium.com/@n4ru/the-definitiv

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