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Gitlab's source-available proprietary model for "open core" is _worse_ than keeping that code secret, because it serves to poison community implementation of similar features.

Gordon Messmer

@mattdm I feel like I don't often see Fedora folk criticize GitLab, but yeah... I agree. I am quite sad that Red Hat doesn't see more value in developing and offering Pagure to customers for private, on-site Git management.

@gordonmessmer

Too far outside of RH core competencies to be successful, I think. But, we should have spun it off into its own company ten years ago.

@gordonmessmer Anyway, as far as open core companies go, Gitlab is probably the gold standard. handbook.gitlab.com/handbook/c is pretty solid, really.

@gordonmessmer

Although, their implementation of "We will always make it clear what is proprietary and what is open source code" is kind of weak.

They _used_ to have web.archive.org/web/2016041920, which is a _lot_ more useful than "here's two git repos you can diff!"

GitLabFeatures

@mattdm @gordonmessmer It should be possible to write a quick parser for their docs and collect every feature header (where they display which variants the feature exists in) to perform an analysis. A new in-depth table could be generated from that. Really just looking for "Free" and "Self-Managed" to be in "Tier" and "Offering" respectively.

gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-

GitLabdoc · master · GitLab.org / GitLab · GitLabGitLab is an open source end-to-end software development platform with built-in version control, issue tracking, code review, CI/CD, and more. Self-host GitLab on your own servers, in a...

@mattdm @gordonmessmer If it's available in the free tier *and* self-managed, I believe so.

@gordonmessmer @mattdm I would personally have rather picked @forgejo , both ideologically and out of preference, but there are a lot of people in Fedora that like Gitlab.

@vwbusguy @gordonmessmer @mattdm @forgejo also they're still the only forge I've seen make statements about xz+OpenSSH, and git forges are really serious ssh users.

@gordonmessmer @mattdm I don't see a lot of Fedora people praising it either, all forges have good and bad properties like all complex software stacks, from a pagure PoV I'm not sure RH competing in that space will be useful for anyone and there's so many other OS things we should be better focusing on improving