@tobtobxx @garritfra About windows I remember the "Mac Vs PC" commercial TV. Assuming that PC was fucking Windows. Even people here used to say "That computer is slow because is a PC in my house I use mac" and I said "No, it is slow because has a fucking Windows, no because it's a PC". I could understand that from people who only used the computer for work but from a person who called himself "Computer scientist" was a bit disappointing for me.

@tobtobxx @garritfra

while this is true that trademarks get overruled when there's a public use but the cultural damage would (is?) already done by teaching everyone that we make progress through corporate sponsorship and deregulation (including open source, Google will use it to create more power)

@tobtobxx @garritfra I think that the Windows thing is because the word existed way before Microsoft invented their OS. The same isn’t true for the word Google.

@mgiagante @garritfra In my opinion is better to say "Let me search that for you". Now DDG seems to be a good company but Google was a good company in the past. I think is better to keep a neutral way.

@jrballesteros05 @mgiagante @garritfra I think the point is to emphasize that google is not the only search engine.

@mgiagante @garritfra I've tried saying "quack" as a verb for ddg but even people who know ddg don't always get it. "dugkduckgo" is just not easy to say. I've also said "let me Google that" and immediately texted them a link to a ddg.gg/?q=x , which dilutes the trademark, at least.

@travisfw @garritfra i´ll start quacking for stuff

@mgiagante @travisfw
"what's the weather today?"
"I dunno, quack it."

@garritfra @travisfw This should be added to the urbandictionary.

@travisfw @mgiagante @garritfra

Trademark dilution through a generic trademark is definitely a thing that some companies fight against.

There was a time when “Nintendo” was becoming a generic term, and they fought against that, and the term game console won out.

@danjones000 @garritfra @travisfw I had no idea that happened.

@JackMeinoff interesting take. To clarify: do you mean that it's important to make the IPO at the right time? Because frankly they are not the only company that IPOed during the pandemic.

@garritfra They happened to IPO right when it was starting and had already made the cross-licensing deals with all the major networks. Zoom (the word) was coming no matter, it just was lifted by the pandemic.

@jlgnt This.

@guenther that would essentially mean that Google gets even more free marketing.

@joacim
im complaining but I also try to get people to understand why its wrong. I dont like to sit in a corner and just complaining :)
@garritfra

@kzimmermann My favorite, from days past, was "I need a new modem."

"Ok, here is one for $12."

"No, it is much bigger than that."

"Ah, you mean the desktop computer."

@souldessin unbelievable! I would have pardoned if they confused the modem with a router, but this... holy crap.

Reminds of the time someone in my first company opened a ticket to fix the coffee maker because "it has LCD screen and blinky buttons"

@kzimmermann @garritfra It's not equivalent but the hardware that runs windows

@NekoSock @garritfra Google already lost that lawsuit earlier this year. I remember hearing about it. Now we need to find ways to use their name while making them irrelevant.

@emacsomancer @danie10 "knock-on" ? Care to elaborate? :)