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Yes, I'm interested to see what @tio has to say about that.
According to me, if you give T-shirts for donations then its definitely a trade and not really a "donation". But the trade-free label is usually applied to goods/services..... So if someone provides a trade-free software that stays the same for ones who donate and those who don't, but for the people who donate they give a T-shirt which has nothing to do with the software itself, then how do we look at it? 
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@tio @futureisfoss @utopify_org
That being said: if you make a video player that is trade-free, so anyone can enjoy it in any regards and do whatever they want with it without trading for that, but you also say that if anyone donates money to the project, they will get a tshirt back - the player itself is still trade-free since everyone gets access to the same player without trading anything for it. The incentive for donations is a separate thing in my view. It can be an interesting discussion however never forget that such edge cases are not that important, what we try to focus on are the more obvious trades and their negative impact, from software that pretends to be free yet they collect your data, to food that can only be accessible if you trade your currency, and so forth.
If the SoulSeek people would send "thank yous" and tshirts or whatever to their donors, then maybe we could consider SoulSeek (the software) as trade free since you get whatever everyone gets, regardless if you "donate" to them or not, in terms of that software.I didn't say that would make the software trade-free but that we could consider it as such. These are "edge" cases and as explained in the main TROM book we should not waste too much time on these because if you put under the microscope any idea/ideal it won't make as much sense.
That being said: if you make a video player that is trade-free, so anyone can enjoy it in any regards and do whatever they want with it without trading for that, but you also say that if anyone donates money to the project, they will get a tshirt back - the player itself is still trade-free since everyone gets access to the same player without trading anything for it. The incentive for donations is a separate thing in my view. It can be an interesting discussion however never forget that such edge cases are not that important, what we try to focus on are the more obvious trades and their negative impact, from software that pretends to be free yet they collect your data, to food that can only be accessible if you trade your currency, and so forth.
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Yes, I remember reading about it in "The origin of most problems" book. We should be focusing on macro trades, instead of micro trades which are these edge cases.
@tio @utopify_org
@futureisfoss @trom @utopify_org Yeah even the example in this post gets near to the edge case, however it is also clear that they limit the functionality of the software itself if you do not trade currency to them. So the software itself is not entirely trade-free.