@killyourfm You doing alright? Haven't seen a post in a few days... maybe you decided to just totally disconnect for fake Christmas! :)
Finally got around to listening to EP 43: Course Correction - appreciate your honesty and willingness to share. Keep up the good work (wherever you're podcasting)!
@sotolf Yes! The best part of FOSS is all of the choice! We should celebrate everyone having their own preferences!
@lig Aha ok - that is pretty neat! I'm going to have to dig into those docs a bit and see what it says.
@lig I know that it's possibly / probably less - but I also think that if your spec can't say for sure, then your spec sucks. :)
@urusan I'd accept the centralization if it meant I didn't have to do workarounds like this. :)
There are trade-offs, sure... but at this point I've got a day job and a toddler, so running updates isn't something I want to spend my free time on. :)
@urusan Yeah it's basically how flatpak / flathub work.
I think you're onto something, but I expect that to be part of the tooling (not some hack I have to do on my own).
I'm just shooting from the hip here, but we HAVE things that do binary deltas and catchup: zsync is a thing. Are we just getting lazy with all of this containerization nowadays? Why not put a bit of thought into how much effort it is for clients to update containers / layers?
@ndanes Yeah agreed! Ironically steam is the one thing that broke recently with some flatpak update... And that's why I _want_ to run those 2.9GB updates, but just having to remember to schedule it overnight.
@ndanes I've been avoiding flatpak / snap for this reason, but there are a few things that are solely distributed via that mechanism.
For now I'm mostly sticking to debs - and when that doesn't work I'll just grab a pre-built tarball and throw it in `/usr/local/bin` and move on. 😛
Again - I want things like Flatpak and Snap to succeed! But I have to wonder if developers realize that a broad majority of us consumers may sometimes (or semi-permanently) be on slow (< 10 Mbps) internet connections.
I can deal with running updates overnight every once in a while if there are a massive amount of updates, but the fact that they're now duplicated (or triplicated) by flatpak / snap is just frustrating.
More flatpak grumbling... so even after I went through the process of installing some utterly massive base packages to get just one or two packages to run, there happen to be updates to those base packages (as expected!). This means I'm looking at downloading up to 2.9 GB just to get system updates. There _has_ to be a better way to do this.
@ReverendLinc Awesome - thanks for the explanation. I've worked with a few other bivocational people in ministry in the past, and oftentimes they didn't express that it felt like it was "working well" for them. Sounds like you're pretty happy with the setup?
@ReverendLinc 👋 Call me curious - got a page or link talking more about being bivocational and/or the church you lead?
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