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@fedora watch people blow this up into FEDORA ADDING COPILOT?!?!?! LINUX DRAMA #8340 (THIS ONE WILL BLOW YOUR MIND)

@fedora Finally, someone who asks for a community opinion first. Curious to see what use-cases would be considered. Please none of the hype-driven ones though.

@fedora I'll leave here a copy of my answer to the freeform question:

"Considering you clearly state that "Fedora will only include software and content that is free and open source", and just about ALL generative AI models have been trained on non-free or open source data, I fail to see how it will be possible for Fedora to integrate AI in ANY of its products or processes, because even if the software running is FOSS, its underlying data is not.
It would be, in my opinion, contrary to the FOSS ethos to implement such systems into a FOSS project, because AI systems are, by and large, based on exploiting data that is obtained in at best legally questionable ways."

@nanianmichaels @fedora you should have a look at InstructLab and the Granite family of models. It's a start in the right direction

We can agree that @fedora council is in the right mind if they prepare a survey about such subject. I don't expect it to end on one tinsy questionaire, so keep asking! We as a community are eager to provide opinions and suggestions.

@fedora I fear the survey might be written to much from a "searching for a problem for the solution" perspective. I nevertheless hope the resulting decisions will be reasonable in the end.

@fedora the only things i see “AI/ML” useful for in Fedora’s near future are speech-to-text/text-to-speech, which can be useful for accessibility. Voted no on everything else.

@Seirdy @fedora "AI/ML" is a weird phase in 2024. It made sense in 2019 but now it reads like "a psychic hotline/spreadsheet"

@fedora very strange that Fedora has been so strict on legal licenses for multimedia that it refused to ship working video playback, but in jumps AI/ML on the back of the largest theft of IP in human history and you're willing to go all in on it 💩
The survey questionnaire is still loaded. You're just fishing for the least objectionable place to try your luck.

@fedora what the fuck? why is that even a survey, disgusting

@fedora the survey is very biased towards allowing uses of the theft machines; shame on you

@fedora
Gods above. I have just moved to Fedora after finally ditching Ubuntu, and sure don't want to have to move again. Please don't jump the AI hype waggon.

social.saarland/@fedithom/1124

Thank you kindly.

social.saarlandfedithom (@fedithom@social.saarland)AI can fuck off. New: https://pod.geraspora.de/posts/17342163 --- https://pivot-to-ai.com/2024/11/30/meet-the-underpaid-workers-in-nairobi-kenya-who-power-openai/ https://www.codastory.com/stayonthestory/nursing-ai-hospitals-robots-capture/ https://tante.cc/2024/04/22/ai-as-support-systems-for-diagnostics/ https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/113000108227350528 https://social.saarland/@fedithom/112797547775951493 https://jascha.wtf/blogmojo-ai-plagiat-im-jahr-2023-wenn-kuenstliche-intelligenz-texte-klaut/ https://chaos.social/@leah/112871670828981320 https://mastodon.green/@akshatrathi/112445979071434307 https://danmcquillan.org/chatgpt.html https://www.brusselstimes.com/world-all-news/1042696/chatgpt-consumes-25-times-more-energy-than-google https://www.vox.com/climate/2024/3/28/24111721/ai-uses-a-lot-of-energy-experts-expect-it-to-double-in-just-a-few-years https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/15/they-trust-me-dumb-fucks/#ai-search https://www.takahe.org.nz/heat-death-of-the-internet/ https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/for-tech-ceos-the-dystopia-is-the https://mastodon.green/@gerrymcgovern/112456092679172352 https://www.swr.de/swrkultur/wissen/clickworker-ausgebeutet-fuer-kuenstliche-intelligenz-swr2-wissen-2023-08-24-102.html + eigentlich alles von https://tante.cc/

@fedora "is AI useful" is not a question for a survey. You're asking for opinions on something that is factual or not. You're asking 1000 people what the weather will be like next weekend. Good luck with these results. Please do not base any important decisions on this.

@claudius @fedora Yes, I ended up being unable to answer the survey because when I first came across it. It was just too binary.

Can LLMs be useful for coding? Sure, but not necessarily in the way the survey authors probably think about it.

It's a bad survey .-.

@fedora As long as you can disable it if you want, it's local and it's data does not leave the network, sure. #AI can be very useful.

@fedora AI is a Security Risk, So No Thanks, I hope you don't put AI in Fedora, If you do, I'll change Distro

@fedora

Not sure where to find the results. The survey itself is offline now ...