Does anybody else have the feeling that all the complaints of businesses about the GDPR just went away because they noticed that now that users have to consent, they can literally just collect any data they want? I have the feeling that it had a completey reversed effect to what they wanted to achieve...

@drueck This is not true, businesses can only collect data for specific purposes, and users should be able to select which purposes to disable (one by one, with no bundling allowed). All the websites blocking access unless you allow all the things are illegal and do not comply with the GDPR

@drueck it should also be as easy do disable as to enable, and not refusing should not be interpreted as accepting. So about 99% of websites are non-compliant

@Matter You're completely right, of course. I don't know about you, but I regularly see my colleagues, family and friends just tapping the okay button on their phone's browser...without checking what they're consenting to. With most of them, I'm not even sure they know the reason why every site now prompts with "these annoying popups" least that's my impression. I'm glad if that's not the case in general!

@drueck Well I hit OK without looking because it takes way longer to decline and that process might not work without javascript, also my cookies get wiped when I close a tab so I don't really care about them adding cookies (and ironically of course the declining gets put into a cookie, which would also be wiped and I would have to decline again)

@Matter Sure, I mean I think people around here will not suffer from this effect, but when I see how people are using the internet, I'm quite sure a lot of people would agree to anything just to be able to use the sites they're used to, no matter what data is collected. As an example: if you do not own a PC or laptop, just mobile devices, how would you know what a cookie is?
Imagining how the next generation is going to handle infosec without something bad happening...scares me.

@drueck Regulations alone cannot protect people from themselves (and should not, either, because then we'd not have freedom anymore), they have to be accompanied by education that shows people to make informed decisions.

I don't think GDPR has a negative effect, however. Why would companies collect data now what they hadn't collected before?
I think the transparency helps privacy advocates to identify and point out issues more easily, even though others don't take the time to check.

@colomar @Matter Very good points that you make, and I agree with them. I am glad that they could pass the GDPR, affecting several countries.
Let's see what happens in the long run, of course it is better to have it than to not have it.
Your point on education is excellent, that's what it always boils down to. The question about how to change it remains difficult, imho.

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