Just discovered @penpot thanks to @aral ...

Looks interesting but I hear you must have a #google account ?

@hyde @penpot Nope, you can sign up with your email address but, sadly, login with surveillance capitalist Google is also an option.

design.penpot.app/#/auth/regis

@aral @penpot
And, when installed locally do you need to login too ?

@hyde @aral Hi! The email (of any kind) will be asked only in order to enjoy Penpot on the cloud. Private instances just require basic Docker knowledge. You can run your own Penpot server following these instructions:
help.penpot.app/technical-guid

@penpot @hyde @aral For what it's worth, I ran a previous version of Penpot in a rootless Podman instance (in my user account) and it seemed to work fine for everything I did.

I should probably try this again, especially since there's import/export now.

(I generally use the hosted version, and it's wonderful. The local version is exactly the same UI as you'd get once you're logged in, of course.)

@penpot @hyde @aral And it'd be really cool to have a Flatpak with the server and a web browser baked in.

(It could be WebKit, which is what we're doing with Cockpit at the moment or even a tweaked version of Electron. Once we have it figured out for Cockpit Remote / Cockpit Client (still need to settle on a name for a desktop login experience to remote servers over SSH), it might help serve as some inspiration.)

So a fully self-contained Penpot app with a server and UI, in other words.

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in the meantime, it'd be great to be able to easily deploy the server capability so trivially (yeah, flatpak or other means) so it's the closest to a native install. Similar to the classic CUPS web interface or PHPMyAdmin, where after installing, you simply point your browser to localhost:1234 and get the "local experience".

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