Anyone used any of the decentralized live streaming services, like D.Tube? Any opinions on any of them? Furthermore, are there any major centralized live streaming services besides YouTube and twitch?
@daremo In case you're not aware, PeerTube also supports live streaming, but I have no real experience with how well it does that.
@daremo Can someone explain what is decentralized about D.Tube? I checked it out and it's just a website that additionally sells some coin.
@Gargron @daremo It uses IPFS somehow, but also cryptocurrency and blockchain stuff – which on its own is a huge "No, get the hell out of there" from me.
I didn't really dig into their architecture, but apparently at least their web app is a central access point. While there might be other clients available, at least for the web app their excuse of not being able to moderate content is invalid.
Combined with the popularity of the platform among nazis and conspiracy nuts, this indicates ->
@Gargron @schmittlauch @daremo here is a random one thats on ipfs https://d.tube/#!/v/nazmulhuda12/QmWJ8kEXunQ8hWiRKCQev67TTkRAeP38ktwioyPyeRDZEo
@Gargron @schmittlauch @daremo if you look at the file its grabbing it from its ipfs hash https://player.d.tube/ipfs/QmTjZX7czEjodBPLVxyGzqq5kkMYayV5zx7d9r2vwSe8jX
@liaizon @schmittlauch @daremo Well, from a gateway under the same domain under their control. You wouldn't even know if it was serving it from a local hard disk drive or not. Besides, IPFS content still has to be stored by someone -- if it's not pinned, it disappears, so it's probably still just them storing it on their hard disk drive anyway.
Pretend for a moment that I'm trying to assess their value proposition at face value. I do not get the point.
@daremo Owncast seems to be the major player in inddependent streaming. Watched a stream earlier in the week. Seemed to work, but I can't find typical system requirements anywhere...
@daremo there both Owncast and PeerTube.
The former (I think) is single user and very easy to set up (it is stream only, I don't think they host the videos later), but requires 3rd party storage to scale https://owncast.online/docs/storage/
PeerTube is much larger, multi-users, and can be harder to set up, but it uses P2P for live-streaming so it scales automatically to hundreds of users (tested) without 3rd parties
@daremo D.Tube only has decentralized videos using a technique very simulare to LBRY/Odysee but arguably with better technology in the background but like on Odysee streaming is fully centralized since technologies like IPFS or Torrents would cause very bad delays aka you need a central server to do it. The only actually decentralized solutions are therefor federated ones like Peertube where you have a server.
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