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Every time I mention Wire, someone gets all up in my timeline about how it leaks metadata and that Signal is the most secure. Having to use your phone number is a pretty impressive hunk of metadata to leak, yo.

"But there are workarounds!" If your first response is to suggest a *workaround*, you've ignored the fundamental design flaw.

Of course, neither of them use #IPv6, so it's hard for me get excited about either one. I go where my friends are (firmly entrenched).

@nivex
tox.chat is missing there though.

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@nivex
Ah, seen now. Still a silly reason :(

@danyspin97 I just looked at tox.chat. Looks pretty impressive but much steeper learning curve. I think the comparison site was geared toward tools marketed at a more general audience.

If I had my way we'd all be using XMPP and possibly OMEMO. Standards are great, there's so many to choose from.

@nivex
Learning curve can be improved, design flaws cannot. So yeah, i would add it as a "in development" alternative. I still didn't have any luck finding someone that wants to try it.

@nivex @DC7IA
They are still in an alpha state, but they should work.

There is also a terminal client for PC. The only thing tox needs now is an increasing userbase. With it, clients will improve faster.

@DC7IA
@nivex

This is a good reason to switch over Tox.chat