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Today I learned: Apple owns a trademark in their new-ish programming language, , for which they applied in 2014. tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfie

The *other* Swift programming language (swift-lang.org) was first released in **2007** and has been in active use ever since. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_(p

This isn't legal advice, but that *sure* seems like Apple's swift™ would be subject to a pretty serious challenge

@codesections also, remember that Apple Computer Inc. weren't the first ones to name their company Apple? — but nevertheless they own the trademark now, *and* are boldly in the music business

@bugaevc @codesections

Trademark.. a horror show.

Recent remarkable story, how Amazon rebranded the un-trademarked but popular "Acme Klein Bottles" to a shady business called "Amvoom", without the original owner having any say in his shop being hijacked.

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2

@codesections In other news, the federation of Raku potters sent the raku.org domain holders a C&D letter. They want the domain all to themselves.

I jest. I jest.🤣

@profoundlynerdy

> In other news, the federation of Raku potters sent the raku.org domain holders a C&D letter. They want the domain all to themselves. I jest. I jest.

Funnily enough, I was actually involved in getting the Raku trademark (which we just got this year tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfie ) and our TM is carefully limited to "Downloadable computer software for use as an object-oriented, procedural, or functional programming language" and similar for *exactly* that reason!

@codesections Clearly you learned from the World Wrestling Federation (WWF) v. World Wildlife Foundation (WWF) debacle. That whole thing was ten kinds of ridiculous.

I'm glad to hear #rakulang has strong but narrowly tailored trademark protections. The last thing the Perl / Raku community needs is more bad press.

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