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My measure of how much better 's search results have gotten is that I will sometimes think “oh, these results aren't very good” and add a `!g`

…only to realize I'm using a different browser than normal and was _already_ searching with google

:duckduckgo:

@emacsomancer

> ([duckduckgo is] still really bing search results though, no?)

I guess? I've always had a hard time pinning down exactly how reliant they are on bing. They claim to use 400 different sources, including bing
help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo – though obviously they weight bing a lot more than most of those.

Eyeballing the same search (in firefox container tabs) in ddg/google/bing, the ddg one is definitely _closer_ to bing than to google, but it's not identical

@codesections @emacsomancer Google (and Bing?) does some weighting of the results based on their file about you, so that might explain the difference?

Anyway, even if it was mostly identical using DDG is hopefully adding less to that file about you on Bing.

@bkhl @emacsomancer

> Google (and Bing?) does some weighting of the results based on their file about you, so that might explain the difference?

Yeah, that's why I specified that it was in a clean container tab in firefox – that was my attempt to mitigate against that. Obviously it's not a perfect solution; there's still whatever IP based filtering they do, to say nothing of fingerprinting.

But it does at least strip out anything based on cookies, which is a big chunk of the personalization

@codesections @bkhl @pet84rik

Ok, trying DDG again after a year or so.

Testing against Bing and Google, and while its results are more similiar to Bing's, they're indeed not identical. I've been using Searx.be (which uses a variety of sources, including google & ddg) - which is pretty good, but goes down sometimes. DDG does seem faster. I'll have to experiment some more.
@codesections @bkhl @pet84rik (I will add that I still find Microsoft infinitely less trustworthy than Google. That's not saying I have any trust in Google, just even less in Microsoft.)

@codesections it's much better than 4-5 years ago, I'm using DDG for over 2 years as my primary engine. But sadly, that's all, hard to find an alternative to a Maps luxury.

@codesections Yeah, I never need "!g" unless I am looking for a local result.
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