Me and Aral disagree here.
He, like some others I've heard, think we need JS to build peer-to-peer technologies ontop of.
I envy you for not digging into how your dependencies work, not finding out how much JS epitimizes Big Tech. The eldritch horror drove me nuts!
Sure use JS as a stopgap, but longterm let's move away from it. Please?
@alcinnz This pretty much sums up my gripes with his position. Like, his analysis is basically right but he's approaching things on the wrong level.
And I mean I have that problem too, to a degree since I too do webstuff, but at least I'm foregoing JS to make things less horrible. The web could be nice, if it wasn't abused as platform for the delivery of untrusted applications…
@phryk Yeah, I saw toots this morning saying the most innovative thing a new platform can do now is not have a web browser.
Here I am beavering away to make the web an enabler of innovation rather than disabler...
Re: JS low-barrier.. given site.js target audience (end-people, any-devs) and KISS approach isn't (node)js a valid choice? Should it be e.g. Haskell?
Imho its valid, though I hate node's dependency hell thingy.
@alex that is true, and I agree but given the requirements and that for Aral as experienced dev this was already a dedicated year's work of programming, what would have been better choices? PHP maybe?
(Discussing technology choices tends to go into religious beliefs. The key is *this* choice's validity, in current tech environment)
In comparison, many self-hosted/bootstrapped languages encourage users to engage in compiler hacking, which further encourages simplicity in design
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