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Given how privacy focused (privacy obsessed?) many of us are, there's a distro that I'm surprised I don't hear more about:

I ran QubesOS as my daily driver for a few weeks a little while ago and was really impressed. It doesn't fit my use-case right now, but it's one of 4 distros I'm considering whenever I get a desktop.

Plus, even if I don't use Qubes, I'll probably steal some of their ideas for whichever distro I end up with

@codesections I'd def read a blog post on "Privacy lessons to take from Qubes to any Linux distro"

@schlink

> I'd def read a blog post on "Privacy lessons to take from Qubes to any Linux distro"

That's a good idea; maybe I'll write one. The tl;dr would be to use VMs a lot more—if web browsing and development work both take place in isolated VMs, then phishing and supply chain attacks are much less dangerous

(less dangerous ≠ mitigated/impossible)

@codesections @schlink Sounds like an alternative to sandboxing that’s probably a lot easier to get working on a Linux.

@codesections curious why it didn't fit your use case.

I've never tried it, but I want to try it.

@tootbrute

> curious why [QubesOS] didn't fit your use case.

Because I decided to use my current laptop as a thin client to connect back to an older/broken laptop via SSH or xpra. So I don't have anything to protect on my laptop (not even the SSH key, which is stored separately on a Yubikey), which eliminates most of the point.

Plus, my current laptop only has 8GB of RAM, which is a *little* low for Qubes with many VMs (doable, but a little low)

@codesections whoa 8gb is not enough RAM? Gosh I guess my 2010 machine with 2gb had no chance to run this 😐

@tootbrute

> whoa 8gb is not enough RAM? Gosh I guess my 2010 machine with 2gb had no chance to run this 😐

Yeah, sadly not—they require a minimum of 4GB qubes-os.org/news/2016/09/02/4

In their defense, you are basically running 5+ separate VMs at any one time, so the RAM isn't just being soaked up by generic bloat.

(And 8GB was plenty if I kept close to the 5 end of that 5+ range)

@codesections I've used it in the past, but then when getting a new PC moved to Ubuntu-based and now Arch-based distros. I'm considering moving back, since I can still just use the AUR in Arch VMs. You can use i3 on there, which I only just found out

@Matter

> You can use i3 on there, which I only just found out

Yeah, I was actually running a bizarrely configured version of OpenBox on it using the package designed for i3 support

@codesections I tried it twice and failed miserably to get it working. Networking was the big issue, if I recall

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