Anyone have any experience using #newLisp as a scripting language / #bash alternative?

I just skimmed their website, and the pitch sounds pretty good. But I'd love to hear from anyone who's tried it

@codesections

Nah, my rules of thumb are:

* If it's simple and system level, I use #Bash.
* If it's complex and system level, I using #Perl 5.
* If I'm just dictating configuration, it's likely #Ansible.
* If it has an API that doesn't suck, I'm probably using #Python 3.
* If I'm connecting things with no API it's back to Perl 5, likely with #Moo, #Mouse, or #Moose for easier OOP.

Perl has the advantage of being installed *everywhere*. #ModernPerl is much cleaner than 90's Perl.

@profoundlynerdy @codesections

> Perl has the advantage of being installed *everywhere*.

That's an interesting perspective. One of the reasons I wrote #passgen (which is a #bash rewrite of xkpasswd with some added features) was that I was tired of installing #perl for just that one program.

@codesections

>... I was tired of installing #perl for just that one program.

Interesting. Perl 5 is baked into the Linux Standards Base. Even Enterprise distros like #RHEL ignore parts of it. But, the embedded space and #Alpine based Linux containers not withstanding, you'd be hard pressed to find a Unix-y OS that lacks Perl 5.

What are you running that had #Bash but was missing #Perl?

@profoundlynerdy

> What are you running that had #Bash but was missing #Perl?

This was on my last laptop, which was running #arch (or, well, #antergos I guess)

I'm currently using #void, which also doesn't have perl by default—though, again, I've installed it for a single application. (In this case tlp)

@profoundlynerdy

You know, now that I think about it, in might not have been perl itself that I needed to add but just installing through CPAN. It was a while ago

@codesections

You might be right. You had me scratching my head because I have tried Arch within the past year and *thought* it had Perl 5 by default.

Missing CPAN in the default install makes a lot more sense than missing Perl outright.

Who knows. My memory could be off, too.

BTW, what attracted you to Void Linux?

@profoundlynerdy

> BTW, what attracted you to Void Linux?

Basically, that I'd really like to be able to understand my computer better. Void seems to do a little bit less automagically and thus helps me learn a bit more (probably not as much as going through a Linux from Scratch install, but I'm not sure I have *that* kind of time at the moment …)

I'm still getting everything set up, but I'll say that I've really liked it so far.