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I am—*sigh*—adding to the ever-growing pile of chat apps I use to communicate with various FOSS projects (along with Gitter, Slack, Keybase, IRC, etc).

Like all the other, non-IRC apps, the desktop version seems to be an app that runs appallingly on my linux system. Any tips for making it better? Stick with the web app? Find an IRC bridge? (any decent ones out there?) Use a mobile app?

@codesections In case of Discord, the mobile app isn't any better either in my experience. :(

@codesections Wow, are you using 6 different apps for that, or are you able to aggregate some of those messages into 1 client?

@Gina I haven't had much luck with aggregating them so far. I've mostly just stuck with their web app versions, which at least let them share resources with each other.

And here's the crazy part: I'm an introvert who barely talks to anyone!

@codesections IIRC Discord's terms of service bans the use of third party apps, so you might want to be careful if you're planning on using third party apps.

Otherwise, my recommendation is to stick with the web version, as the only missing feature (if I remember correctly) is system-wide push to talk.

@codesections Off topic, I suppose, but how do you feel about Keybase right now? If I see it at all I generally see it dissed as a walled garden, which I understand, but my girlfriend is prepared to use it on her Android phone alongside Signal & I talk to a couple of folk using it. I use it happily enough for this purpose & occasionally use the command line. How do the others fare with such things? Also, honestly, I'm using it for git & the like, and in terms of functionality, I can't fault it.

@krozruch

Yeah, I'd generally agree with that take. As a chat app, it's a walled garden, neither better nor worse than the rest.

The rest of their functionality seems pretty decent, but I'm a bit worried about the amount of VC money they've taken. Like a lot of these businesses, it seems like they have a decent small business that could be sustainable & great, but they've promised high growth to a VC and that could ruin it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@codesections I am almost certain it will and now that they have put in with the cryptocoin crowd it will happen sooner rather than later, I think. I just wish I could think of some similar service where I could imagine getting my head around the api to build some functionality without seeing it morally rot while it technically flourishes. The problem is that until we figure some ethical and reliable form of donation and the conventions to go with it, this will surely happen over and over.

@codesections if I can't plug it into my #bitlbee IRC gateway I generally don't use it. The exception is I have Signal and WhatsApp on my phone but that is mainly for direct one on one comms.

@stsquad

I would love to adopt that policy. But there are so many good open-source projects that (sadly) don't use open communication platforms. Sometimes you (and by you, I guess I mean me) have got to meet people where they are, you know?

@codesections I get that. At work we are mostly IRC based but use Google accounts so have gtalk. Fortunately for text chat that's XMPP so it works well. I dod go to browser hosted solutions for video chat though. There does seem to be a bitlbee plugin for discord though so it might be worth a try?

@codesections bitlbee-discord is the only one I've found that works, and only partially of course :( One of those cases where you just have to bear with the real clients, unfortunately.

@codesections I found a fully native app for it [ cancel.fm/ripcord/ ], but it sucks for everyday use because of no formatting and notifications

@codesections I believe at least Slack, Gitter, and IRC all have matrix bridges. Not sure about Discord. But matrix might get your down to 3 or 4 apps...

@hrthu The problem I found with Matrix bridges is that (the last time I tried) the server admin needs to set them up. You cannot just use a bridge as your own user. (at least that's the case with the Discord bridge)

@admicos The matrix admin or the Slack/etc one? If the former, it might be worth self-hosting synapse.

@hrthu Well, when I was trying it I self-hosted Matrix and had bot invitation perms on Discord, but doing a quick search, it seems like it depends on the bridge.

For Discord, you can just use t2bot.io/discord without self-hosting Matrix, but you'll still need Discord permissions to invite the bot in.

I am not certain for other bridges, but you probably need to at least self-host Matrix for most of them.

(There's also "puppets" which I have no idea how they work, might need to look into that)

@admicos That sounds like a headache. It amazes me that even the CEOs of these companies don't find their walled gardens an inane annoyance.

@codesections force them to mattermost rocketchat or that other one I can never remember.
Also I haven't had any issues with electron on my system. At least I have not noticed.

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