Lots of schooling happened here. For now, the only contact I spoke with on Matrix is now with me on Signal (we both were active on it already, least resistance), but I'm looking at this for the future...
Also, fascinating results. On fedi, I expected XMPP to be a clear winner.
@celia why choose? 🤔 I use both
> The Matrix allows you to create small closed gardens, not a real federal system.
No? Almost every Matrix server talks to all others
> There are no large independent matrix servers because the system is dependent on
a monopoly developer center.
There are thousands of Matrix servers hosted by people like you and me.
> The success of the matrix is largely due to a good advertising campaign
@celia the author is spreading lies and misinformation.
E.g. the references supposed to backup the claims about sponsorship, actually do not backup the claims at all.
Then OLM is yellow for no reason, not mentioning MEGOLM, and making the collection of incompatible encryption protocols green.
It is wrong that Matrix cannot be extended: indeed you can add any message type you like without any approval.
This point also ignores the many incompatible XEPs of XMPP, which are painful for users
@celia I don't think these are good comparisons of the two. They are for very different use cases, and the server in matrix does a LOT more, hence the higher resource requirement. However, this makes it much better for mobile devices. Also, see the replies from other users about how matrix is quite new and un-optimised.
@celia if you want me to fetch more lies and misinformation, please ping me.
There is stuff remaining.
Anyways: If it's worth self hosting, depends on your aims and values.
@celia, I guess part of it is that New Vector seems dedicated to making Matrix and its ecosystem FOSS. Unless I’ve missed where they made something proprietary.
Also, bridges are really convenient because using Matrix doesn’t lock you out of established communities.
@celia I honestly think there's a big difference between the two. At least in how i would use it. XMPP and the software using it, is something I would use instead of Facebook Messenger. Where Matrix is something I consider an alternative to Discord or IRC.
@celia That page seems to be full of incorrect FUD. Better check the facts from other sources.
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