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Useful piece. Solar panels are largely cloud managed, and now in The Netherlands alone create the same power as 50 of our nuclear power plants. If you switch this 25GW on/off remotely, the consequences could be huge. And we do not regulate these cloud platforms at all: https://www.dw.com/en/how-hackers-capture-your-solar-panels-and-cause-grid-havoc/a-71593448
@bert_hubert I was afraid this would happen someday, so I took my solar panel installation off the WiFi. No more pretty pictures on how much power I generated, but the solar panels work fine without.
@bert_hubert@fosstodon.org@bashae My panels are also offline, but I still monitor them. And it is a bit sad that this requires you to be a geek, because we could have also built it this way that you don't have to go via the cloud. https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/the-gigantic-unregulated-power-plants-in-the-cloud/
@bert_hubert @bashae When I got my panels updated I specified an inverter that gave me local access & had well maintainted homesasistant support.. lots of them don't. It's a pity there aren't enough of us to demand this is the norm.
Which one was that?
@ely @bert_hubert @bashae It basically came down to GivEnergy or Fox, and I couldn't find anyone willing to sell me a GivEnergy.
Given the fox 'cloud' service is unreliable as hell I've been grateful for local access more than once.
@ely @tony @bert_hubert @bashae Connecting Solax to HA and disconnecting it from the cloud was matter of 15 minutes. Not sure how available Solax inverters are on other markets. Due to quite unique legislation 3-phase inverters are required here, so our selection of inverters is specific (Solax, Goodwe, Victron primarily).
@tony @bert_hubert @bashae I wish I thought of that. Do you know if they can be retrofitted?
I recently simply unplugged the internet connection from the inverter. Its touch panel and display are good enough for now.
If you have CN cloud devices, check https://openbekeniot.github.io/webapp/devicesList.html
to see if you can "uncloud" them.
Inverters are being worked on like here
https://www.elektroda.com/rtvforum/topic4106133.html
But true, total madness that you must freak yourself into these devices. Better would be to enforce the Tuya platform to allow for third party integration and "disable shut off" function.
@bert_hubert I have considered buying one of those HomeWizard monitoring devices. Data would still go to the cloud, but at least it would only be for retrieving data, not for remote control.
When I got the panels installed on my house here in the United States; I insisted on the option that operates independently of the internet, since part of the reason for getting them was to have power when the grid goes down.
That they cannot be remotely bricked is a good side effect.
(There is a "weather alert" feature that is supposed to allow remote changes to system settings in advance of storms. I turned that off.)
@bert_hubert or you get the offline monitorable panels and a vendor-initiated software update bricks that functionality, like Enphase did.