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bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦

People, I'm writing a piece on how we still don't understand why people vote for Trump. To do so, I need a ton of links to articles that DO attempt to explain why Trump won. They don't need to be right! I just need a lot of articles. Could you send me any links you encountered recently? I already have these:

There’s No Denying It Anymore: Trump Is Not a Fluke—He’s America (The Nation) Democrats do not know how to talk to young men — and it cost them (The Financial Times) None of the conventional explanations for Trump’s victory stand up to scrutiny (The Guardian) Was it really inflation that swung it for Trump? (The Financial Times) Met haar kledingstijl onderstreepte Harris haar afstand tot het gewone volk (Dutch, NRC) Why Kamala Harris lost: A flawed candidate or doomed campaign? (BBC) Harris Tried to Sell an ‘Opportunity Economy.’ Here’s Why Voters Didn’t Buy It. (Barrons) A Former Republican Strategist on Why Harris Lost (The Atlantic)
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Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

@bert_hubert Here's a couple;

groene.nl/artikel/trumpisme-me

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/11/15/waaro

theverge.com/2024/11/14/242958

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/11/15/waaro

groene.nl/artikel/triomf-van-d

nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/11/12/popul

groene.nl/artikel/trumponomics

france24.com/en/live-news/2024

theguardian.com/us-news/2024/n

theguardian.com/us-news/2024/n

theguardian.com/us-news/2024/n

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/11/09/wat-g

nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/11/08/met-k

groene.nl/artikel/trump-won-me

nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/11/08/hoe-k

theguardian.com/us-news/2024/n

bnnvara.nl/joop/artikelen/podc

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

De Groene AmsterdammerHoe de democraten kiezers kunnen terugwinnen: ‘Stop met die wokeness, met die betweterige technocratie en dat blinde marktgeloof’Wat hebben de Democraten in Amerika gedaan om de werkende klasse kwijt te raken, en hoe kunnen ze die weer voor zich te winnen? Ewald Engelen gaat erover in gesprek met onafhankelijk journalist Thomas Frank en hoogleraar rechten Joan Williams, die Trumps zege al geruime tijd zagen aankomen.
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Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

@bert_hubert And a few more;

nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/11/06/de-am

bnr.nl/nieuws/nieuws-politiek/

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

NRCDe Amerikaanse vrouwen kozen niet massaal voor Harris, de zwarte mannen niet massaal voor TrumpVijf trends in de verkiezingsuitslag: De presidentsverkiezingen geven inzicht in de demografische ontwikkelingen van het Amerikaanse kiezersbestand. Voor de Democraten waren er weinig lichtpuntjes.
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bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦

@dl nice, thanks! Added to the article.

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M 🥂 🍾

@bert_hubert

"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.”

youtube.com/watch?v=SIYkhb2Njf

"some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” ― Michael Caine in The Dark Knight
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bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦

@Akshay added Trump versus Biden:
The Macroeconomics of the Second Coming to the list, thanks!

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Paul Wouters

@bert_hubert you have a conclusion you need cherry picked data for? This is a weirdly phrased request….

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bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦

@letoams no, I need a ton of articles to show that there are a ton of articles. They don't have to say anything specific. It is a nice collection by now:

Democrats do not know how to talk to young men — and it cost them (The Financial Times) None of the conventional explanations for Trump’s victory stand up to scrutiny (The Guardian) Was it really inflation that swung it for Trump? (The Financial Times) Met haar kledingstijl onderstreepte Harris haar afstand tot het gewone volk (Dutch, NRC) Why Kamala Harris lost: A flawed candidate or doomed campaign? (BBC) Harris Tried to Sell an ‘Opportunity Economy.’ Here’s Why Voters Didn’t Buy It. (Barrons) A Former Republican Strategist on Why Harris Lost (The Atlantic) I’ve been to more than 100 Trump rallies since 2016. This is why I think he won Did sexism propel Donald Trump to power? (The Economist) Die Welt da draußen ist größer als ein Taylor-Swift-Konzert (Der Spiegel) Pro-Harris TikTok felt safe in an algorithmic bubble — until Election Day (The Verge) Why Did Trump Win? These Dems Have Discovered a Very Disturbing Answer - Turns out it proved very hard to persuade swing voters that Trump was a bad president (New Republic) This Is the Dark, Unspoken Promise of Trump’s Return (New York Times) Democrats Wonder: Are We Too Correct? (Politico) How could they vote for him? (Mainly Macro)
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Zash

@bert_hubert Saw this one just now as well: reuters.com/investigations/kam
(hesitated since it's about Harris, but I spotted a similar headline in the screenshot now)

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Chris. R. 🎧🎼☕🍍

@bert_hubert there are some videos on AOC who asked via Instagram why people who voted for her and democratic topics, also voted for Trump as president.

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Jim Fuller

@bert_hubert Trump is a symptom of a much larger problem (there are many Trumps ...) - doing a root cause analysis will find the age old chestnuts of racism and lack of education explain most things ... otherwise populism politics makes people 'feel' ... a good politician that makes the trains runs on time hardly registers any kind of emotion ... I prefer my politicians to be boring and competent but what do I know ?

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fanf42

@bert_hubert An interesting essay which differentiates authoritarian and conservative people, and the need of "oneness and sameness" of the first that can be triggered by thresholds of complexity (real or just by exposure to media) perceived, leading to a need of complexity collapse (à la Tainter diminishing return on complexity leading to civilisation collapse).
Not wholly convincing but it looks like an interesting angle that we are very bad at addressing in modern democracies, and the framework seems to work well enough for it to be an useful model.
It's for last time Trump election, but it looks totally valid now, too, since what it addresses didn't changed in 4 years :
hopenothate.org.uk/2020/11/01/

HOPE not hate · Magazine: Essay – Authoritarianism – HOPE not hateLiberal democracy has now exceeded many people’s capacity to tolerate it. A HOPE not hate special essay by Karen Stenner.
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fanf42

@bert_hubert whatever @mekkaokereke said during the campaign happened to have been realized. It's particularly true regarding "you never get as many swinger by getting more on the right (immigration, geopolitics, etc) than you lose blacks" (paraphrased, hopped I didn't change the gist of it)

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mekka okereke :verified:

@bert_hubert

Who is "we"?

Mainstream media? If so, then yes, "we" don't know why people voted for Trump.🙂🙃

Is "we" Black people? Then yes, Black people do know why people voted for Trump. Which is how all 3 elections, Black folk like me were able to predict with *stunning accuracy,* who would vote for Trump, and why.

Which is why all through Trump's 1st term, I was able to accurately predict that no matter what he did, his support would never drop below about 36%.

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mekka okereke :verified:

@bert_hubert

We keep pretending that there isn't peer reviewed research that shows what the most likely indicator of Trump support is. Yes, it's racism.

hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/112

We keep pretending that "young Black voters are moving to Trump!" when in reality, they moved way left of Biden.

hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/113

"We" just don't want to accept how many white folk in the US are OK with fascism, as long as it's pointed at Black people and called racism. Not all. But a big block.

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Hachyderm.iomekka okereke :verified: (@mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)1. The most accurate indicator of Trump support, is racism. The 2nd most accurate, is sexism. Not "economic anxiety." The only anxiety that they have, is that Black people might have some money. https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/112509146141942999 2. Most Trump voters, were not working class. https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/109876824739991841 3. Most Jan 6 participants, were rich. https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/109880485930219870 4. Venture Capital, is the most racist part of the US financial/capital allocation system, by far. https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/109982115166606787 3/N
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bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦

@mekkaokereke The article is about how everyone is sure their explanation for outrageous voting behaviour is the right one. This seems like a nice addition to the genre.

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