I no longer have a good opinion of Protonmail. They keep promising things and then not delivering on them - open sourcing, calendar, drive. It's been years for some of these things. I like #tutanota much better.
I'd delete my protonmail account (and save myself from some spam it gets) but then I couldn't ever change my mind and get it back if that ever looked like a good idea in the future.
Switched a few months ago as well, never looked back.
Welcome to the family
@ataraxia937 Also no download via imap (or any other means I can find) without a paid account, no automatic forwarding of emails, ... it's such a lock-in and I'm furious I fell for it.
@ataraxia937 I'm always surprised that I don't hear more about posteo. They are such great guys. 10/10 recommend.
@dotcs Don't forget fastmail too.
@ataraxia937 IMHO just accepting mail as an essentially unsafe means of communication helps make better use of it. The most confidential stuff most people deal with is mail they receive anyways (password reset, private info, confirmations), so encryption on your side doesn't mean much.
In this day and age I'd probably go to something like Signal for truly private comms. Email is basically semi-public.
@cadadr I totally agree. And that's why I still use Gmail 99% of the time.. And wish there was a better way to receive sensitive automated messages.
Yikes - gmail is the worst possible choice. It has no public key crypto & #Google has mastered monetizing data. A small operation like #Protonmail couldn't monetize the data to the extent that google does even if they tried.
@petre @ataraxia937 So, I'm no email expert, but from what I know there is no way with email protocols to encrypt email headers end-to-end, which means some meta info is destined to leak. Also, you have no control over what email you receive and how: you can't enforce any encryption, and encryption is rarely used in the wild.
I've exaggerated with semi-public tho, sorry. Essence is that the way email is generally used is not very privacy friendly, & the protocol leaks some private metadata.
I have been considering moving from protonmail to tutanota, but I've already paid for the year until august. Over a year so far with no notifications on android, very disappointing when protonmail is more expensive.
I'm still using Protonmail and considering adding tutanota while keeping Proton too... I must say I believe in alternatives and in paying for services so they can get better (if it's affordable of course). In terms of features, both are lacking for me, with a lot of complementary things present in one but not the other, so I really wish they would collaborate more...
And I do have notifications through Microg.
@Samp @ataraxia937 also see this thread for some issues with Tutanota https://microblog.shivering-isles.com/@sheogorath/103125048451706254
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