I feel rough so decided to work from the couch today. I've been on video meetings for ~5 hours of my ~8hr day and my has been on battery power the entire time.

I still have 46% battery left. Screenshot attached for any non-believers. 🙃

This thing really is incredible.


@kev I say us the FOSS crowd should actually *learn* from these guys. There are obvious benefits for a vast majority of users in having a tightly knit system like Mac's is. Yes, there's a lot of fun in your usual Linux distro... if you are into that sort of thing... But if you want usability and great UX, I'm sorry, Apple is the reference. Glad you love it!

But I guess the FOSS world is way too proud and full of themselves to understand this.

@arivigo that's not the point of preferring Foss. The problem is that Apple software is non-free and you cannot be sure what they do with your data. If you don't mind or don't care then Apple clearly is the reference.

I'd very gladly use it as my work machine, but I don't trust non-free software with my personal data.

@dajbelshaw @fedops it’s a personal choice, right? From my perspective, my data isn’t synced to iCloud, it’s synced to my personal Synology.

Yeah, they could be doing nefarious stuff with everyone’s data, but i don’t see that as their business model. This isn’t Google or FB we’re talking about here, where hoovering up data is the order of the day.

This is Apple, who makes money from very expensive hardware. I’m ok with paying that premium to not have to piss about with my system.


@fedops @arivigo @kev you can copy UX without having to copy the data collection practices

@arivigo @kev They're not too proud. I'm part of the FOSS world and I recommend, in a professional and personal capacity, whatever I think is best for a person.

Not all of the FOSS community are blind to practicalities and personal preferences.

@arivigo @kev I think you can support FOSS but also enjoy apple until the foss projects catch up or get close to their UX, design etc. And even take inspiration from them.

I want an ecosystem that works seamlessly like apples, except that it should be FOSS

@geotechland @arivigo @kev Yeah! We should have to choose between FOSS and a tightly-integrated, seamless experience.

Isn’t it clear that we want both?

Are you aware of the Hello project? It's pretty new, based on FreeBSD rather than Linux. One of its devs is the author of AppImage. He had written an extensive post on usability before creating this project.

I may very well give it a shot at some point.

@arivigo @kev Well I believe FOSS Community loves a Good Working Piece of Code, Platfrom, Hardware, Network as they have Brain Children. Look at the roots of Darwin Kernel and you will find FOSS. Now For the Tightly coupled, its their Biz Model.

@arivigo @kev 2/2 By the way This New M1 MAC cannot run everything, it will take time and some of the code cannot be ported or Efficently Emulated, Lastly one of the promises of M1 was reduced cost... Wothac Pro M1 Pro/Max where it is.. and Don't give argument of additional Two Cores or more GPU cores as these are ARM 8, then how about Chinese Kirin Cores...

@alacer > This New M1 MAC cannot run everything

I'm yet to find something it can't run.


@kev @arivigo Try Microsoft Teams on M1 MAC with MAC OS... Not and IOS Device.. alot of other appsnuse emulation... Off couse the complete Machine arcitecture is changed.. Not all Apps Compile to ARM or X86.. its Natual for compilers

@alacer @arivigo I don't need Teams for anything. Like I said, I'm yet to find any applications that don't work with the M1.

@kev @arivigo Well That's your case.... Its not applicable to all... And Its Natural for a new Architecture to take some time for platform integration...
Rest lets see How much it effects like brew pakage manager. I am not aware about Apple Silion's ISA compatability but hope ARMv8 Binaries should work

@alacer Brew works fine with my M1 chip in my experience. Someone else also posted that Teams works for them on their M1.


@alacer @kev @arivigo Teams is installed on my work laptop, I don’t need it on my personal laptop. I tried it though and it works just fine for me?

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