I figured out the appleid.apple.com issue.

It sniffs your User-Agent.

If it says Linux, Bad Gateway error.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

IT WORKS WITH A WINDOWS UA

IT WORKS WITH A BSD UA

IT WORKS WITH A GOD DAMN OS/2 UA

NOT LINUX

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

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And it's specifically that too. If I delete "Linux" from the UA and resend the request, it succeeds. If I delete just the 'x' off the end, it succeeds. If I lowercase the 'L' it fails. They are deliberately blocking Linux users from managing their Apple ID if they have one.

Wait what?

If I remove the "X11; " from the OS section of the UA, it succeeds. So they're sniffing for "X11; Linux" case-insensitive.

Guess Apple hates X11.

@alexbuzzbee how very strange. perhaps they ran one test, didn't like the result, and decided to just block 'the experience' altogether?

@alexbuzzbee let's keep in mind that this is the company that currently maintains Linux's printing subsystem

@zalandocalrissian @alexbuzzbee

> #Apple currently maintains
> Linux's printing subsystem

Very reassuring, indeed...

@Shamar @zalandocalrissian @alexbuzzbee Something I noticed when reading that: the file conversions incorporated into it are for us maintained separately. The ones maintained with CUPS are Mac OS-specific.

So far the core can still be compiled for Linux-based systems. But it is worrying.

@Shamar So that's why printing on Linux is just as good as MacOS. I never knew they were the same one, but I noticed that Mac/Linux support of printers is significantly less broken than on Windows.

@Shamar (Also I noticed the sarcasm, point stands.)

@alexbuzzbee Do you ever just really wish capitalism would stop fucking up software?

@typhlosion this is probably mood for you too.

@alexbuzzbee This sounds like an anti-competition lawsuit waiting to happen tbh.

Then again, with the FTC & FCC under the control of corporate CEOs atm, it probably wouldn't go anywhere even though it's as illegal as Microsoft's anti-competition practices that they were punished for in the 1990s & early 2000s.

@rick_777 @KitsuneAlicia @alexbuzzbee THAT'S WHAT WAS HAPPENING!!!

I ran into that this week trying to fix someone's new Mac, and could not figure out why it was failing only from my laptop. This is why I hate Apple.

@rick_777 @alexbuzzbee Even if they did and won, Apple would still only unblock it for the EU and the accounts would be region-locked so that someone in the USA couldn't use a proxy or anything.

I've seen it happen with the GDPR. The EU would get blazingly-fast sites while everyone here in the USA still has to deal with 90% of the bandwidth getting eaten up by trackers.

@rick_777 @alexbuzzbee The EU versions of many sites have ways to opt out of cookies and stuff. All we get here in the US is a notification that "by using this site, you agree to let us use cookies to personalize your experience" with no way to opt out.

@alexbuzzbee It may be for security purposes, since X11 lets any app sneak into each other

@espectalll @alexbuzzbee from that perspective, if your x11 is infected and they want to target this specific page, it is already possible to change the user agent. :shrug_akko:

@aetios @alexbuzzbee that's not compromising X11, it's literally by design

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