The modem (yes, the modem) can now run Linux kernel 5.10 ( @postmarketOS )... we're sure many of you know where this is heading :)
Massive thanks to biktorgj, konradybcio and others.

@Bobo_PK @PINE64 @postmarketOS

my guess is that a fully free software firmware for the pinephone modem if in the works, but I could very well be wrong here

@iansutter @Bobo_PK @PINE64 @postmarketOS It can't be fully open because the firmware for the DSP is closed, but this brings it slightly more to the open side.

@PINE64 @postmarketOS shouldn't the modem be running a battle tested RTOS instead of... an entire Linux kernel?

@feld @PINE64 @postmarketOS Shh. We need to see how many instances of Linux can simultaneously run on the Pine Phone

@feld @PINE64 @postmarketOS The mobile network communication part already runs on a DSP core inside the modem, this is linux 5.10 running on the application processor in the modem that's responsible for passing along the data and providing the configuration interface. Normally this runs some 3.x kernel.

@martijnbraam @PINE64 @postmarketOS that still seems like a huge unnecessary attack surface to use Linux on that application processor

@feld @PINE64 @martijnbraam @postmarketOS
> seems like a huge unnecessary attack surface

Not at all: you are already running all your applications, the network stack and a ton of drivers on the same kernel version on the main CPU.

@martijnbraam @feld @PINE64 @postmarketOS Amazing milestone! It's the first device I know where this was accomplished.

We better don't want to know what version of Linux runs on a typical Android device (provided its modem runs on a separate chip like in the ).

@kuleszdl @feld @PINE64 @postmarketOS well most devices don't have a seperate modem. So when the phone is mainlined in postmarketOS they're at the same point as this.

@martijnbraam @feld @PINE64 @postmarketOS Yes, but only regarding the Linux version. There are good arguments regarding security why the modem should be isolated just like it is done in the , and in the early Android days many devices did have this separation in place.

Of course, on the other hand, having separate chips often comes with the trade-off of less power efficiency and higher costs. But I really hope the next will keep these things separated.

@martijnbraam @kuleszdl @feld @PINE64 @postmarketOS There has been some research at And it's not only about Android, iPhone 5's modem and some USB-Modems also use Linux.

@PINE64 @postmarketOS please consider getting some **powerful** #riscv processor for your forthcoming laptops and phones 😃

@PINE64 @postmarketOS what are the chances this modem is pin compatible with #librem5 or mostly for laptops and PCs?

@wisemonkey @PINE64 @postmarketOS IIRC, the uses m.2 for their modems. The Quectel EG-25G in the appears to big to fit on such a card:

@linmob @PINE64 @postmarketOS thanks, so at least #PinePhone can make use of this, as long as it gets in mobile it's good news.

@PINE64 @postmarketOS Imagine if something as small as a Nintendo Switch but with Linux.

@PINE64 @postmarketOS yo dawg I herd yo liek linux boxes so we put a linux box in your linux box so you can hack while you hack.

@PINE64 @postmarketOS this is super exciting, is there anywhere i can read more on it?

@PINE64 @postmarketOS I don't know how I'm missing these posts it's a good thing I read a lot. This never showed up in any of my feeds.

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