And another one :(
@manuelcaeiro well that's not very helpful then is it 😅
@Gina You will never know if you don't try it. 😎
@phel Talk is still painfully unstable, I'll check out the other suggestion.
@Gina Ok, correction on this one: indico doesn't provide videoconferencing, it only integrates into some other solutions...
@Gina Our college has been using BigBlueButton for doing online classes and it worked perfectly.
Do share your experience!
@Gina you miss some simple points:
- complaining about a central service can be compared and indicate a service problem
- complaining about performance of a decentral service has to be differed
-- the service software (client support etc)
-- the server power running the software
-- the exchange between instances when applicable...
So talking about bad performance of jitsi without stating the instance/server is useless...
@Gina Btw, if the problem lies with people using Firefox, hopefully in 1-3 weeks things should get better: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/4758#issuecomment-609977084
(Too little too late, but good to know, I guess.)
@vinnl the problem lies with people.
@Gina It always does :)
@Gina - otherwise I would recommend https://www.webex.com (buh!) and/or https://www.bluejeans.com/ - both will cost you something and I know that your org is short on money.
For Webex that would be 13.- EUR per named user/host per month. If you don't need every user to schedule their own meeting but handle this through some assistants, then it might be a cheap solution with 1-3 named hosts.
I would also prefer a FOSS solution over Webex, but...
@nono as in, a VoIP sip bridge?
@Gina sorry to hear the jitsi thing didn't work out
@Gina I don’t know if still using rocket.chat but we actually have big blue button integration also. Effort undergoing by our design team to build an even deeper integration. Call recording, etc
@geekgonecrazy Ooh that's good to know, thanks! I've actually never had any complaints about Rocketchat's Jitsi integration either, works well :)
@Gina I mean it’s basically an iframe so thankfully little moving parts 😁. We’ve had a few installs start using big blue button and I think it’s the difference between jitsi’s adaptive simulcast and actual video processing in big blue button.
I love jitsi’s concept of browsers sending a few streams up and a server getting to be dumb and just pipe the right resolution streams to users.. But I think users, browsers, nats and bandwidth are a lot of battles for a piece of software to face.
@geekgonecrazy That also explains why BigBlueButton requires a huge amount of resources compared to Jitsi. I mean 16G and 8 cores vs 4G and 2 cores.
@Gina exactly :( it’s a trade off. Depending on users the trade off might be worth it. I hope Jitsi being acquired by 8x8 a video focused company now instead of by atlassian that just wanted to the hands/experience to help them integrate in their product... means we the consumers will benefit. I think we will just going to take some time :)
@Gina This thread was interesting:
@Gina Argh., That's frustrating. One thing that I've noticed with Jitsi is it's really dependent on the CPU capabilities of the machine. If you're on a Windows Surface Atom processor machine and start up another application you're going to have a bad time of it.
Also I wish Jtisi was better about sharing their secrets for how they get meet.jit.si to be so smooth. I tried with my own Linode instance and it was similar to the complaints raised in that email.
@Gina Also they just released 2.0 last week but I haven't had a chance to try it. Might want to check the version that was installed and see if that might help.
@Gina (and I can empathize with your pain. Once folks get it in their head that something doesn't work it's hard to get them to switch back)
@craigmaloney @Gina I think they actually have a couple of presentations with details about how they have Jitsi stood up. A couple of years ago I met with Emil when they were still with atlassian. I believe the biggest secret is actually sharding. In the LB they use the room as the hash so all traffic for that room ends up on the same instance. This way they can scale up capacity behind the scenes and support more and more conferences
Apparently it was simpler than I thought to find this:
Thanks again for the pointer!
@Gina I know you're trying to go all open source but Zoom did just recently lift their 40 min limit for free accounts.
(I support Zoom/Webex for a living so it's a world I have to deal with.)
@julian haha have you met my users.
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