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Now that we have American presidential candidates normalizing the idea of owning your data like personal property, I wonder how the project (solid.inrupt.com) is doing?
businessinsider.nl/andrew-yang

@Gina I was wondering, too, a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't find anything new, though. still appears to be "in the making" to me, in a sense that they're not really ready to do a big public push. However there are a couple of example applications..

@Gina I'm all for owning and controlling our data but not for selling our data because that would be ethically wrong. It eventually would corrupt us. Besides Mastodon and the Fediverse in general prove that we can own and control our data without selling it. Other (and IMHO better) projects for owning and controlling data are , and .

@ericbuijs @Gina I agree that selling our own data could corrupt us, but basically you would have a choice to sell or not to sell.

@marjan @Gina Since selling data is about privacy and who you are. I therefore consider it the same as selling a kidney. I suppose you can do it but it's unethical.

@ericbuijs @Gina Anyway I would not even think about selling out my data myself, apart from what I already "sold" out unknowingly. BTW #freedombone looks promising. Only problem I see with a homebased server is the protection of your data...

@marjan @Gina I think that @bob, the developer of Freedombone, is better qualified to answer that.

@ericbuijs @marjan @Gina @bob If defending data is your concern then it doesn't get better than on a machine in your home which you control. If it's something in a warehouse then you don't know who has access to it and it may be vulnerable to spectre exploits.

@Gina Extremely bad idea. It's just another form of 'Privacy for Sale', only this time you're supposed to get money for it instead of others making money off of you.
It will result in exploitation of poor people who will be forced to sell their personal data just to make ends meet.
Violations of privacy should be trialed, not legalized.

I've made a long thread about this, but it looks like that was on :birdsite: and got deleted along with my profile.
Somewhat related:
x0f.org/@FreePietje/1016198504

@FreePietje @Gina Lets hope the next US president is more on our side then, in general where America leads the rest of us follow. Time to turn the tide, we need to to defend the right to repair or even run the OS we choose to easily.

@zleap @Gina There is a chance that the next Democratic candidate has some sense and common decency. Then again, people had high hopes of Obama as well

We can't and shouldn't rely on any US president (or politician) to fight for our rights. They are all bought and paid for. Next one could reverse all the good the previous one did.

We need to fight ourselves for our own rights. I still believe in "what happens in the US, happens 5-10 years later in NL/EU" and should support EFF/ACLU b/c of this

@FreePietje @Gina Fully agree, lets just keep fighting and raising awareness, I wish there were more supporters in the Torbay, Devon area who were equally active to help me, I just feel like I am fighting this on my own and it gets bvery disheartening when you don't have anyone to back up your arguments.

I need stats to make arguments, so the numbers for the fediverse were good, we need to convince people that odf is a proper format it is but everyone argues everyone uses MS WOrd, the rest of us are using some obscure system.

We need to get children and young people on board, they are far more sensible and we can actually have productive conversations with them on all this.

Trying to talk to some adults is like talking to a dinosaur they don't really use computers unless they have to, don't learn new stuff unless they have to and I get the idea even then they are reluctant to. So getting kids on board may start to replace those adults with adults who know and care about things.

@zleap @Gina I feel and share your pain and I wish I had an answer.

Getting kids on board looks to be way harder then I thought/hoped because if you don't use WhatsApp (f.e.), then you're the outlier. I don't care about it, but for kids it's VERY important to belong and not be the outlier, ie that weird kid.
Kids learn MS Office because the one who teaches it only knows that. And M$/Google/Apple practically give their software away to kids because that's an amazing long-term investment
Etc, etc

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