Me: "Almost 500 people follow me on Mastodon!" 🎉
Coworker: "You could have had 300K followers on Twitter by now."
@sphinxc0re Meh, being blonde and blue eyed nazi's generally left me alone on Twitter. Incels however..
@Gina Oh, yeah, sorry, I totally forgot about the misogyny that comes with Incels...
are you still active on twitter?
@sphinxc0re Nope, although lately I've been thinking about setting one up again. Unfortunately there's still a lot of valuable IT news found there. How about you?
@Gina I was barely using Twitter when I still had an account. Mastodon made the medium a lot more accessible to me somehow. But yeah, for some reason other peoples Twitter timeline always kinda looks more interesting than my Mastodon feed 🤷♂️
@sphinxc0re I'm embarrassed to admit its such a set-and-forget thing I can't remember off the top of my head. I'll check and get back to you. But if you can check out the results, my handle there is 'danylstrype' as 'strypey' was already taken.
@resist1984 The only reason I crosspost on Titter is because some people are already choosing to be there, regardless of how much I've advised them against it (to the point of being annoying). Also, because why marginalize ourselves by only posting our stuff within our own small bubble? #POSSE TFW! If you look at my Titter feed (which you can do with JS disabled), you'll see I proudly emphasize that I mainly post on the fediverse and encourage others to join us here.
> Some of us cannot or will not use Twitter.
Excellent. So you can follow we in the fediverse.
> If you mirror all your posts on Twitter, you become part of the problem by failing to give ppl a reason to step outside of twitter.
How will not knowing my posts (or the fediverse) exist at all give people a reason to step outside of Titter? There are much betters to migrate from T to the fediverse than 'to be able to read Strypey's stuff'
> There are much betters to migrate from T to the fediverse than 'to be able to read Strypey's stuff'
This is like saying "my vote is too small to matter so I why vote at all?". Large numbers of ppl w/that same mentality is why #Trump is in power. Collectively this rationale is harmful.
@strypey @Gina @sphinxc0re
I'm not sure ppl fully realize the fallout. E.g. I cannot microblog to my government or local school board b/c they use TWTR exclusively, w/the assumption everyone is on TWTR. And TWTR disallows me access, so a denial of #freespeech has manifested to some extent. Getting a phone# and giving it to Twitter, Inc. should not be a precondition to government comms.
@resist1984 I agree this is a problem. But this is an excellent use case for a crossposter. It's not realistic for the school to go off T cold turkey. Arguing for that is pissing into the wind. But if they can switch to a fediverse app as their daily driver, and use a crossposter to still get posts from users on T, that makes it much more likely to happen. It's a transitional strategy.
@strypey @sphinxc0re @Gina Presumably crossposter tools limit all posts to the TWTR character limit. A tool designed to address the TWTR exclusivity problem would ideally compose the two posts side-by-side & make it practical to write more information in the #Mastodon post. TWTR users should see a shortened abstract & fewer posts as well, so the Mastodon data value is relatively higher.
@resist1984 the crossposter I use doesn't limit my Masto post length, and as a result, does show a shortened abstract on T, with a link to the full Masto post. I choose not to crosspost any posts with @mentions in them to T, so T followers only get the initial post, not any resulting discussion thread. They don't get any replies I make to other fediverse posts either.
@resist1984 you're teaching Grandma to suck eggs a bit here. I was sending links to that page to the #CC #Aotearoa Project Lead about a decade ago to advise him on whether and how we engaged with FB for that project. My minimal engagement with T is very much is the spirit of the strategy RMS lays out in that essay.
@strypey @resist1984 @sphinxc0re @Gina I've gone for a kind of middleground approach - I don't crosspost everything, but I follow some people on Twitter via my reader app, plenty of interesting people still there. To interact I reply to them there via Bridgy, and put my Mastodon/website in my bio/handle. Maybe I'll pique the interest of someone to check the Fediverse now and then, without feeding the beast too much.
@Gina you know, I'd rather count not folowers, but people that actually reply to your posts. These guys who actually not just read, but think about your post. They should be valued a lot more than followers.
Generally, I have about 20-30 persons, who actually respond to me, and I've really learnt a lot from their replies :)
And the quality of exchanges here has been heaps and bounds ahead of twitter. Never going back !
@Gina 300K Twitter followers = 299.99K bots and two actual humans. one of them hasn't logged in since 1948
congratulations! If we can say so... By the way I had more than 4000 followers on Google+ I do not know why and how...
@Gina Well....... I mostly agree, but it still depends. I'm on Twitter still, too, and I still see that, though the #fediverse is populated by a funny and kind crowd, there are types and groups of users I've never seen here so far, the community out here seems in some ways way more homogenous than the crowd on Twitter. Especially talking about photographers, (non-tech) writers, artists, ... .
@Gina I still have a Twitter account to which I auto-forward my toots. Mastodon has superseded Twitter already a long time ago in both, quality of interaction and follower count. Don't believe your coworker.
Fosstodon is an English speaking Mastodon instance that is open to anyone who is interested in technology; particularly free & open source software.